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Dana 60 diagnosis?

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The warn hub fell off as we were loading it last night. I knew it was in bad shape when I bought it. It feels like the wheel wants to come off. Guy i bought it from said bearings went out and his son kept driving on it. Figure the spindle is shot. Could it be a outer shaft too?

Straight on pic of axle end, you can see its not centered. Second pic of like new warn locking hub, figure its fine, anything missing in there? Third pic of last nights score:D

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Spindle nut isn't even against the wheel bearing, that's why the wheel wants to fall off. Outer shaft should be fine, just take it apart and see what's going on with the wheel bearings.
 
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Wheres the outer bearing? :dunno:
 
Spindle nut isn't even against the wheel bearing, that's why the wheel wants to fall off. Outer shaft should be fine, just take it apart and see what's going on with the wheel bearings.

you frigin blind :haha: there is NO wheels bearings in that hot burnt up mess.

first ditch the warn hubs.

next if the whats left of the warn hub will come off the stub shaft then good. if not good a time as any to 35 spline uprade it with new hubs anyways.

next no bearings = new spindle more than likly. and check the brake rotor and caliper bracket. drop down like that will eat a few parts.

going to prob need new spindle nut/washer set that side to.

rip it apart and post more pics. easy to fix with few parts. and check the hub/rotor unit for major damage see if the whats left of bearings the races will drop out or tap/press out. you dont want them to drop out or be welded in from extreame heat.
 
Have heard warn hubs are built with cast junk and plastic, it will be a few weeks before I start tearing into it. thanks for all the good info. When I start gutting it I'll post some more pics. What kind of 35 spline hubs do you guys run?
 
If you want a strong lockout, stick with the Spicers. Their inner gear is stronger than any other offered out there.
 
Couple of comments about the Spicer hubs.

I see everywhere that they will fail in the locked position.
Not necessarily.
I had the Ford version on my '79. Had just gotten it out of the dealer shop on Friday for some warranty work, and they had repacked my front bearings while they were at it.
Saturday morning, I was going mullet fishing. (Its a fish, not a haircut).
Normally I can drive all over crooked island in 2wd. This time I hit a soft patch of sand and started digging.
Hopped out to turn the hubs.
Left hub would not turn. Totally locked in free. Tried pliers, no luck.
Normally I would have some Allen wrenches, but had used them for something else.

Nothing to winch to. Plus I was facing the sound, did not want to winch myself into the water.
It was a long walk back to the mainland, or a 1/4 mile swim across crooked island sound.
Didn't really want to do either.
Found a nail in a piece of wood floated up, and used a hammer and my big front bumper to pound it into a semblance of an Allen wrench and got the screws out.

The outside bearing nut had backed off to the point that it was rubbing on the locking hub. That generated enough heat that the two arms melted into the plastic actuator.
Not far enough to engage it, but far enough that you could not turn the plastic part.

I got it engaged and the heck out of there.

Also, if you use a Ford one, not sure of the general Spicers, but those have a tapered spring.
DO NOT go by the manual which says put the small end towards the bearing.
If you do, the big end will drag on the splines inside the hub, and not be strong enough to push the locking part out every time.

Found that one out the hard way too.
 
well good story but thats way off the main reason we say thay fain in the locked position.

but good point to make . and sounds like the jack wagon who worked on your rig needed to have his tools taken away from him.
 
well good story but thats way off the main reason we say thay fain in the locked position.

but good point to make . and sounds like the jack wagon who worked on your rig needed to have his tools taken away from him.

The only problems I ever had with SPICER locks are related to the plastic know melting.:doah:
Still you can take it off engage the lock and move on.
When my Warn broke, it was done.:dunno:
 
Yep, I drilled a couple of holes in the top of my big bumper out at the ends that were just the size of the Allen wrench that removes those caps.

Tapped a wrench in each hole with some heavy waterproof grease on it.
Next time I had to pull a hub in the field, not only did I have the wrench, I didn't even have to walk to the other side of the truck.
 

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