Dana 60 Hub teardown question (source of clicking noise found)

[garydan]

I'm tearing apart my driver-side hub to find the source of a clicking noise when the locking hub is disengaged. What I found was that the clicking noise is coming from contact between the metal ring the large spring pushes on and the outer edge of the splines its supposed to move over when the locking hub is engaged. I hope I explained that good enough without using the technical terms I'm unaware of . I was thinking that the spindle nuts weren't torqued down enough. Unfortunately I'm waiting on a spindle nut socket to come in.

I'm also looking at this diagram and I'm wondering what #73 is. I don't seem to have that part in my hub??

 

[BILTIT]

I dont see a diagram just a red x?

 

[garydan]

I made a copy of the image (from pirate 4x4 to give proper credit) and cropped it for the area I'm concerned with. You should be able to see it. I did notice it was an image of a dodge dana 60 though.

 

[Recon!]

It's the locking ring that fits on the end of the stub shaft, stand by, pic to follow

 

[Recon!]

 

[76zimmer]

Yep, I believe that has to be inplace to keep the outer axle from pulling in to the knuckle and away from the inner hub seal.

 

[garydan]

Well I went out and looked again. I definitely don't have those locking rings in there, on either side. I snapped some pictures. It looks as if I have plenty of room to snap on the ring on the side that clicks. On what I thought was the "good" side, the part that slides over the axle doesn't go in far enough to expose the grove on the axle for the locking ring.

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I have a feeling the outer locking hub part that you screw on with the 6 allen screws was pulling in the inner part resulting in the clicking noise. If that locking ring was installed it would have prevented that I think.

Next important questions..... why is the passenger side not far enough in to get a locking ring on? And then.... where can I get these rings?

 

[bp71k5]

Try a big flat head screwdriver behind the u-joint to shove the axle shaft outward to expose the groove.

 

[Recon!]

Mine had a ton of room in there when I pulled it all apart, I'm not sure you have it together correctly.

 

[garydan]

Try a big flat head screwdriver behind the u-joint to shove the axle shaft outward to expose the groove.

Yeah that worked.... duh Thanks!

Do you think not having those rings installed were the cause of the clicking described above? I'm pretty sure it is. But now... I have to figure out how to get those rings.

 

[bp71k5]

Yeah that worked.... duh Thanks!

Do you think not having those rings installed were the cause of the clicking described above? I'm pretty sure it is. But now... I have to figure out how to get those rings.

If the seal was not doing it's job, that might let something in there fail sooner than expected and cause some kind of noise.

 

[garydan]

If the seal was not doing it's job, that might let something in there fail sooner than expected and cause some kind of noise.

I know the source of the clicking (see first post), I'm just trying to determine the cause.

 

[bp71k5]

Are you by chance using 35 spline spicer outers with warn hubs? I had a similar sounding grinding between the tip of the axle and the back of the hub, but it sounds different than your problem.

 

[j250trxr]

Did you ever find where to get the inner c-clip on the stub shaft? I have the same problem.

 

[garydan]

Did you ever find where to get the inner c-clip on the stub shaft? I have the same problem.

go here: http://www.dana.com/ and find a local dealer

and have them get part#74 from this diagram: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/60_front/gm 60 exploded.jpg

 

[j250trxr]

Thanks

 

[garydan]

For the record though...after a full rebuild of the hubs, including adding those clips on, It never fixed the clicking noise. If I slightly reduce the "torque" on the 8 allen screws holding on the locking hub, the clicking went away.

 

[sweetk30]

i had to grind off a few tho on my stub shafts when i installed spicer locking hubs i got. the end of the shaft would rub the dial and make it hard to turn. mabye you are getting the same problem.

 

[j250trxr]

Got mine all done today and no more noise, went together great. I think my noise was from the main hub and an inner gear on the lockouts had metal shavings, and some of the hub was worn away, but all better now