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Data Logging and Burning

Recon!

Recon!

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I have read nearly every thread from every forum possible that I can on this stuff including everything on moats.net. I am so damn confused about all of it it is amazing. I think I need someone to take me by the hand and talk to me like the 4 year old I must be when it comes to this crap.

I know I need an aldl cable for my netbook and I know I need some type of software to read my computer while the truck is running.

What I don't understand is all these bin files that I may or may not need and all the other funky acronyms out there. I have no idea what the ECM number is on my Blazer, just that it's an 89 Chevy Blazer with a 350 and 700R4.

It's a pretty good running truck, but I know it could be running better if I could just figure out what the hell everyone is talking about when it comes to this crap.

I want to learn how to read what my truck is doing, and how to adjust it to make it perform better and get a slight bit more mileage out of it, even though I hardly drive it on the street.

Hell, I'm confusing myself right now. I don't even know where to start.
 
Recon! said:
I have read nearly every thread from every forum possible that I can on this stuff including everything on moats.net. I am so damn confused about all of it it is amazing. I think I need someone to take me by the hand and talk to me like the 4 year old I must be when it comes to this crap.

I know I need an aldl cable for my netbook and I know I need some type of software to read my computer while the truck is running.

What I don't understand is all these bin files that I may or may not need and all the other funky acronyms out there. I have no idea what the ECM number is on my Blazer, just that it's an 89 Chevy Blazer with a 350 and 700R4.

It's a pretty good running truck, but I know it could be running better if I could just figure out what the hell everyone is talking about when it comes to this crap.

I want to learn how to read what my truck is doing, and how to adjust it to make it perform better and get a slight bit more mileage out of it, even though I hardly drive it on the street.

Hell, I'm confusing myself right now. I don't even know where to start.
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The best place to start is down loading the free software. I have a thread that is a mouse click by mouse click tutorial for down loading the software.

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275801

Post back when you get the TunerPro Software loaded.

dave w
 
I got the software loaded, and I tried downloading the bin definition. When I follow your step by step, after I click on program files and then tuner pro, there are no folders in it to save the bin in. I tried creating one but it just tells me the file can't be downloaded. I don't get it.
 
I figured out where the folder were, for some reason it was in my documents. Stupid windows os.
 
I followed the tutorial perfectly, thanks.

When I open the bin after selecting the xdf, nothing comes up at all. Is there something I am doing wrong?
 
Good Job getting a .bin file to open up! I need to update the tutorial because with TunerPro V5 the files are now set up in "My Documents". The older versions of TunerPro put the files in "Program Files".

An 89 Blazer is usually $42 .xdf. The .bin code, or Broad Cast Code (BCC) for your 89 Blazer is on the lable of your computer. The BCC is a 4 alphabetical letters. Something like ASDU, or AMUR.

Let me know what the BCC is for your 89 Blazer? Then I can help you find a copy of the .bin file for your 89 Blazer. Learning is more fun when you have the actual .bin for your own vehicle.

dave w
 
I'll be able to get it tomorrow, since I'm at work right now.

Maybe a dumb question, but where is the computer located in the truck?


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Recon! said:
I'll be able to get it tomorrow, since I'm at work right now.

Maybe a dumb question, but where is the computer located in the truck?


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Pull your glove box door off and you'll see it near the top of the underside of the dash.
 
I thought so, but always good to check with you guys. Thanks!


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Just from reading what you have accomplished in 2 days I think your doing great!

Your truck should have a 1227747 ECM. This ECM is one of the easiest to start with. Mine has a .BIN file of ASDU. One you have some equipment to burn chips I can give you one that is an aftermarket Stage 1 that you can use to practice your chip burning. I think Dave told your your mask for this chip (XDF) is $42 that is a hex number. thank God we don't have to learn hex nowadays because of software like TunerPro.

Here's some of the acronyms a lot of people get frustrated with when they start.

.BIN file is the file on your chip in your ECM
ECM Engine Control Management and called a few other things.
.XDF is the mask that reads the .BIN file in the software your using.
.ADX is the acquisition file, this is the file you need to load in TunerPro to see the data from your truck when it is running. You will need an ALDL cable to hook up from your computer to truck ECM.
When you record data the file is made by TunerPro and called an XDL
ALDL Assembly Line Diagnostic Link. This is where you plug your cable into your truck.
That's a start for you. There are 100's of these acronyms for EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) and it gets worse when you get to newer vehicles with OBD II (On Board Diagnostics)

I started a thread in my signature with about 100 of these. Been learning them for 10 years and still find something new each day. The reading you have done is not in vain! As you start working more with this stuff hands on it all comes together.

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That is a correct BCC for your truck.

1987-91 truck 4.3 V6 TBI “Z” LB4 (exc. “S” & “T” body)
1991 truck 4.3 V6 TBI “Z” LB4 w/ MT (“S” & “T” body)
1990-91 truck 4.3 V6 TBI “B” LU2
1987-91 truck 5.0 V8 TBI “H” L03
1987-90 truck 5.7 V8 TBI “K” L05
1991-92 truck 5.7 V8 TBI “K” L05 w/o 4L80E</I>
1987-89 truck 7.4 V8 TBI “N” L19
1227747 2732 $D000 $D004 $D002: $D003
ACSU, ACSW, ADTJ, ADWD, AFDY, AJUK, AKAJ, AKAL, AKAR, AKDX, AKSN, AMUR, ANLW, ANLX, ANLZ, ANTZ, APAB, ARHT, ARJU, ARPC, ASDU, ASDW, ASDZ, ATKX, AZFT

Here is a great cross reference page:
http://www.exatorq.com/ludis_obd1/idxref.html
 
This is a great thread dave w and eagle mark, you guys are the computer guru's :bow: keep the info coming for recon, it sounds like we are on the same level with this and you guys are making it a lot easier to understand:waytogo: I need to get a cable soon.
 
One of the problems I had when I first started datalogging was figuring out what all the datapoints were and why they mattered. There is a lot of great info from Dave W and Eagle Mark and these guys are really patient and ready to help.

I also picked up a used copy of this book (How to Tune & Modify Chevrolet Fuel Injection) .

It helped me out with understanding how the datapoints relate to each other and how they affect your running engine. I'd say you only need half (or less) of the book to get a good idea of what is going on though.
 
There is still a big learning curve! If you don't have desire and some time each day and not be in a hurry then don't get involved!!!

One of the best books sold (Manual) was from one of the early inovators of TBI conversions, the owner of CustomEFIS.com which is now gone. I have a copy of his manual and go back and read it from time to time because of his explanation of things. If you can find one buy it!
 
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