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diesel is so much more than gas...dont make sense

MrArmyAnt said:
What is this run red? Ya'll mean alcohol?

"Run red" is a reference to using off-road diesel fuel. It's dyed red to show a motor vehicle inspector that road taxes have NOT been paid for this fuel, so if an inspector sees red in the tank of a diesel-powered vehicle, you're gonna get f**ked...
 
It should be damn near free in Alaska.... :haha:

We have $2.89 - 3.69 Diesel around here. The $.40 drop is starting to be seen on the street....
 
Red for home heating
Blue for off road
Uncolored for Taxes paid.

If you get caught with Red, you can always claim that you just drove the vehicle, and you last filled it after Katrina, when #2 was allowed.

You can also claim that you added ATF, but home heating #2 red is really really red- looks almost like pure tranny fluid. One quart of tranny fluid in 10 gallons doesnt even give it that color.
 
koldsimer said:
True enough, but buying American made alternatives is increasingly difficult. Take a look at the tag in just about every piece of apparel you own. See the word China anywhere? One of the last remaining American sock manufacturers closed last year, leaving us with next to no options for buying socks from anywhere but China. My point is, more "right wing extremists" need to wake up and realize that the current administration is doing NOTHING for American workers. Look at our trade deficits with other countries, especially China. Our gas prices are all a part of this vicious cycle. Flame away.



I'm not gonna flame you.. I hate the fact that we're losing industries too. As far as who supports the working man, nobody does, and every administration ( and congress) has hurt this country by either doing or not doing things. Where we are at isn't the result of just one thing.

Tom
 
The biggest problem with diesel right now is truck, rigs to be specific. This is the middle of the ominus 4th quarter in the trucking business. Demand for trucks is very high right now with everyone trying to get their goods to the stores for Thanksgiving weekend. There is also a high demand for trucks moving produce in the midwest before the freezes hit.

To make things worse Fema has about 1000 more trucks on the road than normal. On any given day there are 4.5 million tractor trailers just moving long haul. This doesnt include your local rock haulers, cattle haulers, UPS, FEd Ex trucks or any other diesel powered local delivery truck. The demand for Diesel is staggering as Big Rigs average around 6MPG, your 24 footers about 9-11MPG. Some guess there at 15Million trucks on the road averaging less than 10MPG everyday. The mining/farming industry just adds to those numbers.

Now you add all the new pick ups that are out there and you see where the demand is.

Here is the true downside. Truckers are paid on a per mile basis, the companies bill everything per mile. Since this time last year the average increase in cost per mile is around .40 CPM not incluing the fuel surcharges being added after that.

What this means to the end line consumer is this. If a shipment of Cheerios from IN to GA cost $1200 last year, its costing $2100-$2200 this year. Companies are trying to hold their prices firm to keep inflation down and the consumer happy. They cant forever as they will go bankrupt. One economist in our industry predicts HUGE INFLATION numbers 1st quarter 06 and a recesion by the end of the year. In the 14 years I've been in this business he has been wrong once.

Save you penny's fellas, were all going to need them. As prices rice for everything there is less spendable income meaning less spending and less demand. Fewer Jobs, higher prices and layoffs.
 
You speak the truth. I see it because works is slowing down faster than usual at the dealer. Companies just don't have the money to fix their trucks at the moment with diesel prices soaring.
 
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