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Easy trail selection for BB06

Maby city market? I dont know if there will be another group meeting there or not. If that doesnt work there is a big pull off at the turn to potato salad.
 
ivie29 said:
there is a big pull off at the turn to potato salad.
Most of us know where that is but for those that don't do you know what the name of that street is?
 
Gemini Bridges for Saturday? Anyone?
 
I think you are talking about Sand Flats Road. The way to Potato Salad Hill is to go east out of town on Sand Flats road one mile past the stop sign near the cemetery. Turn right following signs to Americas Most Beautiful Dump, go about a mile south on a moderate 4 wheel drive road to a flat area, Potato Salad Hill is out of view on the right. To drive it bear left then swing right to the bottom of the hill. To watch park in the open area and walk west.

This is from Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-Wheel Drive Trails
 
Gold Bar surprised me in a few areas...and in a stock rig I might be a little hesitant in places. There are just a few places where I'd think there'd have to be some good spotting to get everyone through. The thing i found is steep climbs and drops in Moab are so much more 'doable' than what I'm used to here (wet granite, shale, mud and other slippery crap). Once you accustom yourself to how much the slickrock surface helps you then it becomes less of a big deal.

Definitely had a great time on that trail though...

Rene
 
just look for me and point me in the right direction. Nice Blue JIMMY says T-DAWG on the front Hot wife beautiful kid, oh and big ole gigantor me. Can't miss us. Look forward to seeing and meeting you all.
 
We can meet at the turn off to potato salad on Sand flats road if that is ok with everyone. This way I can have my truck off the trailer and ready to go since its not legal in moab anymore.

Is there a time set up for this run yet?
 
Do we still need an easy trail for Saturday?
 
coloradok5 said:
Do we still need an easy trail for Saturday?

I would like one.
I am not sure I will still be there on sunday and I can only do easy with my stock blazer chalet but if no one else wants one then...
:o
 
tRustyK5 said:
Gold Bar surprised me in a few areas...and in a stock rig I might be a little hesitant in places. There are just a few places where I'd think there'd have to be some good spotting to get everyone through. The thing i found is steep climbs and drops in Moab are so much more 'doable' than what I'm used to here (wet granite, shale, mud and other slippery crap). Once you accustom yourself to how much the slickrock surface helps you then it becomes less of a big deal.

Definitely had a great time on that trail though...

Rene


Something else to consider...... the trail difficulty is only half the equation for most people.

Don't underestimate the "Emotional Difficulty" of the trails too....!!!!


I did Hell's Revenge with the BB'02 gang and I'll agree that there wasn't much very technically difficult about it, I found myself VERY uncomfortable with some of the obstacles that were offcamber and close to steep dropoffs. It good to push yourself to try new challenges, but I'm not too proud to admit that at the time it was well beyond my 'comfort zone' as relative newbie to the sport. The guys I was riding with were patient and great which helped...but if I had the chance to choose a different trail for my first Moab experience I probably would have.

I suppose everyone has different survival instincts that kick-in when a situation where large consequences are in play. Your mind can really mess with you when you know that a simple "flop" would actually result in a 500' drop to the bottom of a canyon!!

Lion's Back is another great example....almost ANY vehicle could do the climb, but once you see it in person and understand the consequences of a mistake, the real obstacle is your own mind....not the rocks themselves.


Something to think about. :thinking:
 
Greg72 said:
Something else to consider...... the trail difficulty is only half the equation for most people.

Don't underestimate the "Emotional Difficulty" of the trails too....!!!!


I did Hell's Revenge with the BB'02 gang and I'll agree that there wasn't much very technically difficult about it, I found myself VERY uncomfortable with some of the obstacles that were offcamber and close to steep dropoffs. It good to push yourself to try new challenges, but I'm not too proud to admit that at the time it was well beyond my 'comfort zone' as relative newbie to the sport. The guys I was riding with were patient and great which helped...but if I had the chance to choose a different trail for my first Moab experience I probably would have.

I suppose everyone has different survival instincts that kick-in when a situation where large consequences are in play. Your mind can really mess with you when you know that a simple "flop" would actually result in a 500' drop to the bottom of a canyon!!

Lion's Back is another great example....almost ANY vehicle could do the climb, but once you see it in person and understand the consequences of a mistake, the real obstacle is your own mind....not the rocks themselves.


Something to think about. :thinking:

Hey Greg
I don't think you are talking about me but for those who do not know me, I have a dozen years of wheeling under my belt, and I have wheeled anything from a stock 2wd Van to a modified crawler K5 but now with a stock K5 with a chalet, although not very top heavy as I noticed in the past few days driving it, is still a little more than a K5.
I would feel comfortable to drive it to the limits now, but I do know I can't take it on a 45 deg off camber like I did my modified K5.
I have no problem driving a couple of feet from a 500' drop off, done that back home so much people used to say I was crazy.
Anyway back to the point, I would rather go saturday on a scenic route that my wife and baby could enjoy whilst using the capabilities of a stock K5 somewhat.
:D
 
jms said:
As I said before, I don't have a good feel for what a heavy chalet can do, but how about this:

Drive up to Canyonlands National Park on route 313, drive the Park blacktop to the great overlook - doesn't get any more scenic than that. I've been up there, and I could spend a whole day on that road. On the way back, instead of 313, take Gemini Bridges Road. That's a dirt road with a few rough spots; be sure to stop and check out the two natural bridges, they're pretty cool. Continue on to the intersection with the Gold Bar Rim trail, I'd say you can easily explore the first part of the trail. Gold Bar Rim has one real obstacle where you drop down a ledge in a left hand turn (there's pictures in my 'Adventures of the SheetMetal Gang' article on BB'05). I wouldn't try that in the chalet, but you should be good with some careful driving up to that point. I also wouldn't drive the little shelf that leads to the ledge, but turn around at the top of the hill. If memory serves me right, there's also another trail to explore off of Gemini Bridges Road, I think it's called Bull Canyon, that goes into the canyon that the Gemini Bridges go across. The way out is another dirt road that takes you by Gooney Bird Rock (where the first picture of the Offroad article was taken) and then up a shelf of the cliff, with a few more fabulous views.

I don't mean to insult anyone in case this is too easy, but I'd say you could have a fun day on that route, and take in a lot of the scenery that the area has to offer.

I am not insulted, I'd rather have lots of nice views than lots of obstacles, constant scenery is even better.
Like I said this trip is mostly for the family that likes the outdoors, not for me to bash on rocks.
Next year I will be back with something capable.
:D
I could probably just take this route on my own or if someone wants to join me.
I like exploring and I could be a little more comfortable knowing there are others close by.
:laugh:
 
imiceman44 said:
I am not insulted, I'd rather have lots of nice views than lots of obstacles, constant scenery is even better.
Like I said this trip is mostly for the family that likes the outdoors, not for me to bash on rocks.
Next year I will be back with something capable.
:D
I could probably just take this route on my own or if someone wants to join me.
I like exploring and I could be a little more comfortable knowing there are others close by.
:laugh:

IceMan,

Nope wasn't talking about you (I know you are "certifiable" when it comes to scary wheeling!)...I was expanding on Rene's thoughts about what consitutes an "Easy" trail....

My woman and I did "Hurrah Pass" yesterday..... took about 100 photos along the way. We did the whole thing in 2WD, and I'm sure a Chalet could handle it easily. The views were AMAZING!!!

It's an easy trail to find, just turn right next to the McDonalds and follow Kane Creek Road until it turns to a dirt road. It's about a 12 mile drive total and you have to double-back on the same road unless you want to try to connect to Chicken Corners (I think...) but that would take a LONG time. We did the whole thing in about 3 hours and loved it.

I'll see if I can upload a pic to show you what it was like....

Hurrah Pass Summit (~4730 ft):
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Hurrah Pass: Peninsula to test your balance (or not!)..
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By the way.....I also bought a pass for Arches National Park (it's good for 3 weeks) so if anyone wants to see the park, I can lend you my pass and save you $10.

Here's a couple shots of what's available to see....again it's magnificent and photos do NOT do it justice!!

Balance Rock:
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Delicate Arch:
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Thanks Greg,
yes that is what I am looking for.
And by the way I have my own yearly pass for Nationnal Parks. it cost me $50 a year any Nationnal park. :D
I was at Yosemite, I am going to this one, then to Yellowstone and Glacier National Park so it's worth it.
:laugh:
 

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