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Ethanol Free Gas and 1974 Blazer
- Thread starter Chief Brody
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I was driving around today to find the best price.
now, the average price per gallon here as of today is about $3.15 for 89 octane,
and about $3.55 for 94 Octane.
For the pure Gasoline, I found several stations around me that sell it. The closest is a Phillips 66 and they have $4.09 for 91.
The best part is I found a Chevron off the Interstate that is about 5 miles from me that has it for $3.49 for 92 Octane
That's the best deal around for right now.
now, the average price per gallon here as of today is about $3.15 for 89 octane,
and about $3.55 for 94 Octane.
For the pure Gasoline, I found several stations around me that sell it. The closest is a Phillips 66 and they have $4.09 for 91.
The best part is I found a Chevron off the Interstate that is about 5 miles from me that has it for $3.49 for 92 Octane
That's the best deal around for right now.
4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
Only a couple of places around here that have it and they are CFN stations. I'm not even sure how those work outside of commercial accounts and if I am able to use them with a personal bank card or not.
I would like to try a tank or so to see if there is any difference. From things I am reading, it does seem to help with better running and slightly better fuel mileage.
I would like to try a tank or so to see if there is any difference. From things I am reading, it does seem to help with better running and slightly better fuel mileage.
chicken joe
1/2 ton status
this is the site i use
http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=WI
and imo ethinol is the single worst thing we can do to our engines.
10 years ago i had a 98 buell cyclone and after two months of messing with it, in and out of the shop/dealer and 4 carb rebuild kits, the first one done by me the rest different shops, and the problem was ethinol. i have been using 100% ever since and no problems.
the 1994 dodge ram i had befor my k5 would get 425 miles per 35 gal tank with 100% gas and about 250 with 10% ethinol.
their is a whole list of cars and motorcycles companys that will not warranty a new vehicle for ethinol related problems.
http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=WI
and imo ethinol is the single worst thing we can do to our engines.
10 years ago i had a 98 buell cyclone and after two months of messing with it, in and out of the shop/dealer and 4 carb rebuild kits, the first one done by me the rest different shops, and the problem was ethinol. i have been using 100% ever since and no problems.
the 1994 dodge ram i had befor my k5 would get 425 miles per 35 gal tank with 100% gas and about 250 with 10% ethinol.
their is a whole list of cars and motorcycles companys that will not warranty a new vehicle for ethinol related problems.
Lawn and garden equipment and small engines too,suffer worse than cars with ethanol woes,because they sit a lot without being run, and are jetted too lean for emissions,and ethanol also attracts water ,then breaks down into a grain like paste on carbs and it ruins rubber parts,many manufacturers dont use compatible rubber parts (on purpose to increase repair profits I dont doubt)...the stuff isn't easily removed with carb cleaner either--not like old varnished "old gas" ,it needs to be boiled off in water with lemon juice,vinegar,or another mild acid..often it clogs a passage and cant be removed,rendering the carb junk..
I have had to replace rubber diaphrams in my small engines carbs and pulse fuel pumps more than once in recent years,when they went 30+ years on the "old" gas with no issues..ethanol dries them up and makes them stiff,and they fail to work in short order...finding them is getting harder too,most shops wont re-order stuff for "antique" engines once their stock on hand is sold out..have to resort to going to online sources,and you never know what you'll get until it arrives...usually its imported crap thats not ethanol resistant..
I put an electric fuel pump on one of my lawn tractors and it runs much better than it did with the vacuum pulse type pump with the diaphrams that dont work well ...how long that will live with ethanol I dont know..
I have had to replace rubber diaphrams in my small engines carbs and pulse fuel pumps more than once in recent years,when they went 30+ years on the "old" gas with no issues..ethanol dries them up and makes them stiff,and they fail to work in short order...finding them is getting harder too,most shops wont re-order stuff for "antique" engines once their stock on hand is sold out..have to resort to going to online sources,and you never know what you'll get until it arrives...usually its imported crap thats not ethanol resistant..
I put an electric fuel pump on one of my lawn tractors and it runs much better than it did with the vacuum pulse type pump with the diaphrams that dont work well ...how long that will live with ethanol I dont know..
what's crazy is that they are charging more for plain gasoline like it's some kind of special formula when the stupid ethanol is the added thing...go figure...before Obama regular gas was around $2.00 a gallon with no ethanol
He had to make it to expensive to burn him in effigy.
Thats due to the corn subsidies they pay farmers to grow corn for the ethanol I'm told--it ends up costing more to make less efficient fuel,that ruins things!..typical government intervention...we should be eating the corn,not wasting it to make ethanol!..it drives up food prices too...
Naw the goberment would never endanger the lives of people by burning food. I am sure you misunderstood. They are helping the American people with weight reduction by source intake modification.
In Tacoma WA there is a small private refinery that makes gas with no ethanol. I know it can be found at CENEX feed and supply stores.
All completely untrue. There are no subsidies anymore. The corn used in ethanol production is not what you are going to eat. It is fed to cattle, which you eat. It is still fed to cattle anyway. When they are done using the corn for ethanol production, they sale it as by product, and it is fed to cattle.....
Martin
As we have all seen on the EFI trucks covered by CK5 website... what rubber line splits? The only one left in the tank!
The original sock is also not ethanol proof as they rot and the fibers get sucked into pump causing failure.
So it's safe to say that vehicle manufactures were getting ready for this, but not quite done by 1991? When did the ethanol fuel start and when was it mandatory? Curious...
That's some really good fuel! Higher octane and as long as it is stored properly it will last forever!
Depending on vehicle and year? You will! Storage of vehicle or lawn equiptment is the worst part of this E fuel.
In newer computer controlled vehicles you will see a performance and MPG gain just by running non E fuel or higher octane because the PCM has two timing tables, low octane and high octane. The PCM is always adding spark and looking for knock and adjusts the spark advance to as high as possible. I always run the high octane and because of it I never have knock counts. Who wants to force their motor to knock all the time? Albeit a small quick amount of knock for PCM testing purposes.
On a dyno you will get more HP from higher octane as we all know if spark is optimised for it. But you will also get more HP from non E fuel because the Stoich AFR is higher.
E 10 fuel is 14.13 to 1 AFR
Pure gas is 14.68 to 1 AFR
Looks like late 80's early 90's were when ethanol started to become something manufacturers had to actually think about dealing with, as it started being used in certain areas for certain reasons. I recall "winter blends" being introduced. Pretty certain in my area later on they stopped mandating it.
We've ran ethanol in the old man's 1976 C65 since the early 90's. It sits for months at a time. We also run it in his 1950's IH Super M-T/A. He has ran it in every lawn mower he has owned since then, as do I.
Martin
Martin
Still...I am not going to...
also...If you want to know who has the really cool old muscle cars in town, just wait around at a gas station that has a pure gasoline pump....I saw a sweet 1953 Corvette pull up and fuel up the day I was checking prices.
Most people with souped up cars are switching to E85. The hot rod guys LOVE ethanol.
Martin
But restored classics the guys want regular gas
LOL that made me think of the old miller lite commercials.
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oh yeah...classic car guys will walk 10 miles uphill, in the rain, with no shins, over glass...backward just for a drop of regular gas 
