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Extreme 4x4 - OOPS!!!

OffRoad said:
yeah, i'm sure the 1 tons will stand up to that. :eek1: :doah:

on the other hand... who here is gonna get the 1st pics of someone running 54s on a 10 bolt???:haha: :haha: :haha:

I know we say it wont make it out of the driveway but they dont even have the tire weight below 300# yet. I have money that it would not make it out of the driveway unless towed:D. But some dumb**** will try it and think it is kewl and try to unload it on ebay for 50 bazillion dollars.

Ira
 
muddermilitia said:
I don't think anyone makes the h1replica for a blazer frame. I think its only for suburban and longbed frames.


Someone used to make them for Blazers too. I don't know if they still do though. One of the mags (Fourwheeler IIRC) did an article on it years ago and mentioned they had Ramcharger/Trailduster kits planed as well.
 
:haha: sorry i missed it ! i could tell that thing was gunna be a big POS from the start, sure took them long enough to finish it.
 
im not sure how to look at this... they build something from scratch. and it messes up a few times.. but look how hard they drove it around on the first time out... any time you make something like that you have to expect a falure or two.. maybe not this catastrophic. but you know what i mean. i think its good they show their flaws. lets people learn from others mistakes. i mean thats kinda what we do here isnt it? i say for the most part it was cool but i still laughed my a$$ off when they showed that axle tucked up under the cab:haha: . its all about the ratings baby:wink1: .
i wont quit watching just because this happend.. i mean they do give the correct info for the most part.. what messed up was not misinformation.. they just missed something. but they said what the right thing to do was.
 
Yeah but they built it knowing they were gonna drive it hard and that was its intended purpose... not only did a shock mount or three break at the weld but another part that they bought instead of built sheared off... They just didn't go beefy enough.
 
I saw that episode, and I had to bite my tongue to keep from yelling at the TV as I watched them hack that thing together, but I'm a bit of a hater so I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt. I often feel that way when I watch people fab stuff incorrectly on TV (OCC, etc.) When they proceeded to trash the thing- they didn't know how to drive in the first place- I couldn't hold back any more and proceeded to unleash a verbal tirade that probably made the neighbors think I have tourettes. After working in a fab shop and being around the welding industry for several years, I expect more from TV shows that backyard builders will inevitably copy at home. But, as I said, I'm a bit of a hater who tends to overbuild everything I touch.
 
Well most people here with negative comments probably do more web fabriction and wheeling than anything else and do a good job of talking outside of their asses. Or your 15 and know everything.:rolleyes:
If you do any one off customizing/fabrication there is a trial and error aspect. You will never get everything perfect. I've fabricated for many years and rarely is anything flawless, no one is perfect. A major project takes alot of planing and time, and in theory you are going places others haven't been, so you try it and see if it works. If not redesign and start again.
 
I've done plenty of fabrication. I've also had the privelage of working along side those who have built- successfully- just about everything in not only the automotive, motorcycle, and racing industries but marine and industrial applications as well. The collective knowledge base that I've been able to draw from is extensive. There are correct ways to do things and incorrect. Knowing the difference is what separates professionals from everyone else. Instead of hacking something together and wondering, it is easier to ask questions and draw from EXPERIENCE first. They weren't building the first of anything, and frankly, they could have done a much better job. It bugs me when TV shows often show the incorrect way of doing things and call the methods and people involved professional. Yes, trial and error is an integral part of fabrication, but they weren't wheeling that thing very hard. Hell, 1/2 ton IFS would have held up to the drive I saw on that show. I am the first to admit that I don't know everything, but I'm not on TV acting like I do.
 
I work in a fab shop currently using all kinds of welding, tig, arc, mig, and dual sheild and LOTS of fabbing everyday and I almost can't watch that show anymore... I find myself talking to the wall about how retarded these people are. I remember watching them build the cage and they didn't even care if the main supports for it weren't evenly bent... as long as it was "close enough". I don't know about you but I'd rather take the time and do it right. And I still can't figure out what they were thinking running downhill mig beads on skinny little FB.

Instead of having a guy and girl that kind of know what they are doing with trucks and kind of know what they're doing fabricating they need to have 2 experts... one who knows rigs, and one who knows fabbing. I mean that chick drilled a hole in some pipe then made 2 cuts from the end of the tube to the hole to make a slot and she looks in the camera and says "now thats fabrication":haha: I just shook my head and laughed.
 
bowtiepower00 said:
they weren't wheeling that thing very hard. Hell, 1/2 ton IFS would have held up to the drive I saw on that show.


I can attest to this. There also is about a billion dollars in research and development over the years that goes into a modern IFS.

Maybe they took it easy in the parking lot loading it on the trailer.:crazy:
they should have tested everything safety related before heading out. but that makes for a boring tv show.
 
beastofablaze said:
I mean that chick drilled a hole in some pipe then made 2 cuts from the end of the tube to the hole to make a slot and she looks in the camera and says "now thats fabrication":haha: I just shook my head and laughed.

I did the same thing... I don't really care who they have on those type of shows, I just expect them to know what they're doing. Especially when they have access to a shop full of unobtanium tools and parts with a limitless budget. I've seen better work by backyard fabricators using chop-saws and buzz boxes. At least they weren't using 6011 or 13 rod and a AC welder... :haha: :rolleyes: The other thing that got me was that they didn't just have a small oops, they had what I would consider to be major component failure. It's one thing to rip a shock mount off, another to lose the whole axle.
 
bowtiepower00 said:
I did the same thing... I don't really care who they have on those type of shows, I just expect them to know what they're doing. Especially when they have access to a shop full of unobtanium tools and parts with a limitless budget. I've seen better work by backyard fabricators using chop-saws and buzz boxes. At least they weren't using 6011 or 13 rod and a AC welder... :haha: :rolleyes: The other thing that got me was that they didn't just have a small oops, they had what I would consider to be major component failure. It's one thing to rip a shock mount off, another to lose the whole axle.

Thats the problem with tv... they are looking for people who are good on camera and actually knowing what your doing comes 2nd. Just pisses me off that the only channel that has a real wheeling show is the outdoor channel and you have to pay extra for it.

Don't even get me started on the trucks (they got a ex wwf wrestler wrenchin on trucks:haha: :doah: ) guys or musclecar. :whistle: :surepal:
 
AZ79K5Project said:
At least their welds actually held the metal together, for a little while at least. Helen Keller could weld better than me.

I like to see the their ideas and destruction. They actually say what and why things went bad in the later shows.

Yeah but thats a later show... the intended purpose was to give people ideas on their builds... if you go out and do what they do and you find out 3 weeks later that it farks up then your sol.
 
The only person on horsepower that new what the were doing was the old trucks guy Stacey. he went step by step on his build and even told people to over build their stuff. Everything he built and did was almost flawless. i couldnt beleive they got rid of him for those other two idiots
 
The only reason the front end broke was because they shearded off the 3/4" heim. It wasnt there fault, nothing wrong with there fabrication. I think yall are just jealous.:rolleyes:
 
Jealous of what they can afford... not their lack of fab skills, or knowledge of building a reliable trailworthy rig.

Who decided that part would be strong enough and bought the part? You don't think they make a beefier one? I'm getting too worked up, I need a beer. I THINK I'm done ranting.
 
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beastofablaze said:
Yeah but thats a later show... the intended purpose was to give people ideas on their builds... if you go out and do what they do and you find out 3 weeks later that it farks up then your sol.

I can't argue with that. Very true!
 

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