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Deuling

Deuling

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Starting on a truggy build. Anybody got any fab tools gathering dust? If we can get a 1.75" die for a jd2 at a good price we may use tubing instead of pipe. A dimple die set would be pretty cool also. Just wondered whats out there.
 
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Deuling said:
Starting on a truggy build. Anybody got any fab tools gathering dust? If we can get a 1.75" die for a jd2 at a good price we may use tubing instead of pipe. A dimple die set would be pretty cool also. Just wondered whats out there.
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Adam if you borrow stuff lemme give you some advice. It is not their responsibility to come and get their tool. You need to make it numero uno to get their tool back to them if they need it.

Ask how to use it. Those tools need care, they can be ruined quickly.

Take it from someone who has alot of tools and have "friends" all the time when they need something done, man they want it done.

So many times have had made more than one phone call to get my stuff back.

If you borrow a fab tool then remember its a borrowed tool and you now owe them way more than you think.

You remember those things and that person will probably let you borrow it again and again.

I know this is what should be SOP but so many ( all of us) forget about it sometimes.

Just be more considerate than you think you should be and all will be good, those are expensive tools and letting someone borrow them is a big deal
 
Deuling said:
Dang. College kid makin $9.50 an hour, $310 doesnt really come as cheap lol. Thats a weeks wages plus an hour of ot after taxes lol. Man i wish i had a lathe. Id just make some of those. :doah:
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Jus saying if you do borrow.

Its way more than just a lathe. I have seen homemade ones out of mild steel, they dimple just fine in really thing stuff but the one guy I knew that did his own said it took twice the money he would have spent getting a set vs his set. His first one only did 6 holes before it started getting hammered big time. He sent em out and got em heat treated though and they started lasting pretty good.

You need to be checkin pirate often, and your local craigslist. I have seen full on benders ( nice ones like a JD2) for a couple hundred bucks. But they go insanely fast, have to be like my buddy who checks craigslist like every 20 minutes or so, he has gotten some amazing deals
 
My boss has a jd2. But only has a 3/4" die for running stainless plumbing lines. He said i could use it as much as i want if i buy the die.
 
I guess i wouldnt be apposed to borrowing a die. I would just have to do like u said eric. Keep it all in a box in a safe place where nobody is gonna use it with out me there. Get it back on time etc. If i can find somebody with one to buy or borrow i need to find a dom dealer nearby.
 
Deuling said:
Dang. College kid makin $9.50 an hour, $310 doesnt really come as cheap lol. Thats a weeks wages plus an hour of ot after taxes lol. Man i wish i had a lathe. Id just make some of those. :doah:
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you can buy single dies there also, but most of us started buying tools when we were making as much or less than you. dont think i just went out over night and bought a welder, plasma, drill press, press, and tubing bender.
 
We have torch, plasma, pipe bender, built a press, 3- 110 migs (mines gas, other 2 arflux only) an old 220 stick welder, drill press. Acces to a jd2 but only has 3/4" die. On the list is bigger die for bender, tubing notcher, and a tig welder. Dont need the dimple dies, just think it looks way cool and wouldnt mind having.
 
blazinzuk said:
Adam if you borrow stuff lemme give you some advice. It is not their responsibility to come and get their tool. You need to make it numero uno to get their tool back to them if they need it.

Ask how to use it. Those tools need care, they can be ruined quickly.

Take it from someone who has alot of tools and have "friends" all the time when they need something done, man they want it done.

So many times have had made more than one phone call to get my stuff back.

If you borrow a fab tool then remember its a borrowed tool and you now owe them way more than you think.

You remember those things and that person will probably let you borrow it again and again.

I know this is what should be SOP but so many ( all of us) forget about it sometimes.

Just be more considerate than you think you should be and all will be good, those are expensive tools and letting someone borrow them is a big deal
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Let me tell you a little story as to why this is really good advice. I had two former friends (not that they are former friends from this incident but still shows their character) that I will/would never lend another tool to again. My first welder was a POS 115v 90amp H freight flux wire feed. The thing sucked but for exhaust and making simple brackets it worked.

Friend A was a good friend at the time, was fixing something for him at his house and left the welder in his garage to come back and finish later. Well over the course of the week friend B who wasn't as close of a friend but a friend none the less says to friend A I need to borrow someones welder. He goes O well Vinnie's welder is in my garage, let me call him and ask him. Well no one got through to me and they both decided to just assume I would say yes regardless and proceed to take my welder to friend Bs house. Well the next day Ive got **** to do, need to come and get my welder. Call up friend A "O I tried calling you, friend B really needed to borrow your welder and I couldn't get in touch with you".

So I let it roll off my shoulder and say eh I probably would have said alright anyway but tell him I'm not to fond of his assumption. So I call up friend B who has an issue with answering his phone. Leave him a voicemail and a text saying I need my welder back ASAP got work to do tonight. To condense the rest of it, he goes out wheeling, leaves his garage locked and never gets back to me until the next day. Told them both that was the last time anyone borrows my tools. I was phawkin P/O!

And come to think of it friend B is the same one who borrowed my balljoint preload sleeve socket, lost it, and claimed he had given it back to me already...


The moral of the story is dont do that ****. Sometimes its better to just rock and stick some things then borrow peoples stuff.
 
blazinzuk said:
Its way more than just a lathe. I have seen homemade ones out of mild steel, they dimple just fine in really thing stuff but the one guy I knew that did his own said it took twice the money he would have spent getting a set vs his set. His first one only did 6 holes before it started getting hammered big time. He sent em out and got em heat treated though and they started lasting pretty good.
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I have around 150k in lathes and tooling and it was still cheaper for me to buy my dimple dies:D I got mine from sexton off-road.

My experience borrowing stuff usually results in me buying the tool twice, once to replace there's and one for me :doah:

Also buy a good notcher, my first one was the HF one which worked but not well. The new one is the JD2 notch-master and it's awesome!
 
was always told that you have to put a value on the friendship. if the cost of the tool is not as much as the value of the friendship, its worth it to just go and buy the damn tool, otherwise you will probably burn a friendship. now thats worse case, just sayin.
 
Didnt make the thread to ask about borrowing. I wanted to see if people had anything i could possibly buy.
 
Deuling said:
Dang. College kid makin $9.50 an hour, $310 doesnt really come as cheap lol. Thats a weeks wages plus an hour of ot after taxes lol. Man i wish i had a lathe. Id just make some of those. :doah:
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Deuling said:
Didnt make the thread to ask about borrowing. I wanted to see if people had anything i could possibly buy.
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i think it was the top post that had people assumin borrowing would be better/easier .
 
Smokinthehippies said:
i think it was the top post that had people assumin borrowing would be better/easier .
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very much so.

If you can find the tools to borrow well then you dont have to put out the cash.

I have one buddy that we loan all sorts of tools back and forth to each other. Makes all the tools available at a much lower cost
 
Change the title to WTB- Fab tools, or at this point maybe start a new thread. Another lesson for you, when buying/selling be very clear. No slang, no assumptions, no "in the future", no stories. Clear posts, cash$$$, and "right now" are words to live by.
 
bigjbear said:
Change the title to WTB- Fab tools, or at this point maybe start a new thread. Another lesson for you, when buying/selling be very clear. No slang, no assumptions, no "in the future", no stories. Clear posts, cash$$$, and "right now" are words to live by.
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Didnt know if itd go against the rules not being in the for sale forum. Ok thanks. We are just gonna use pipe. Tubings too damned expencive around here.
 
blazinzuk said:
if you borrow stuff lemme give you some advice. It is not their responsibility to come and get their tool. You need to make it numero uno to get their tool back to them if they need it.
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Id sure wish everyone had this same idea :waytogo:
 
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