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Hi all,

Back on the forum after a long break. I'm now living in Florida and am starting to look at getting the bodywork done. Things that were done in the past couple of years:

Complete overhaul of the brake system.
New front bearings, u-joints,etc.
New 4 core radiator.

Truck still runs great but sadly I've only been able to drive it less than 1,000 miles a year.

So, onto the bodywork. I'm looking to get the major rust areas replaced/repair and get it painted with original-looking paint. Not looking for anything fancy (ie. showroom quality), just a nice stock look with the major rust problems fixed.

My dad had the rockers and some rust in the fenders replaced about 20 years ago and had the exterior painted. The repairs were metal, not fiber or bondo, but, as you can see from the pictures, this truck needs significant work again. In addition to what's shown on the pictures, the floor pans need replacing and are particularly bad toward the outside near the rockers. The bed is bad as well and will need significant patching or complete replacement. I'd also like to find a rear seat so I can take the kids with me (my dad removed and sold the original rear seat soon after he bought it in 1971). The tailgate will probably need a bit of work at the bottom. The rear fiberglass lift door needs some fiberglass repair or replacement. Inner fender wells will need replacement or significant fixing. The quarter panels don't appear too bad except for the usual places, but of course many problems could be hidden. The radiator core support is fine. Bumpers need some straightening and painting (or I might get chrome bumpers, not sure yet). Windshield area I think is OK - It was OK about 6 years ago when I replaced the windshield.

That's about it.

I know what you all are gonna say, but I'm looking to have a pro do most of the work. Learning to weld and breaking into this has been on my "to do" list for 15 years...and it just ain't happening. Between a 60-hour a week job, losing a weekend each month for reserve duty, moving every 2-3 years (wife is active duty military) and managing a family of five I don't have a lot of time. I don't even do my own oil changes anymore....

Anyway, I'm looking for suggestions on how to proceed. I've got some money I saved for this project over the years (~$5k) but could manage more if justified. Some things to consider:

1. I'm not interested in buying a better truck unless it's for parts. This vehicle has significant sentimental value and I understand and accept that the money I put in might not be justifiable based on pure economics.

2. I'm looking for quality work that will last but this isn't meant to be a show vehicle or a 100% restoration. So I guess I"m looking for the 80% solution.

That said, I welcome all suggestions, advice and, particularly, potential pitfalls. Fire away!

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I'll say that decent bodywork is more expensive than any other type of automotive work. The only thing more expensive is good bodywork. Don't underestimate how expensive and time consuming rust repair is.

If all it needs is to have some surface rust removed and a few dents fixed and then a re-paint, the $5k may be enough.

If there's rust holes that you want to fix on any non-bolt on panels, you'll easily go over the $5k mark. I'd plan on $2k for decent paint job on a straight rust free body.

Depending on how much time you really want to spend, I'd recommend removing the rust from everything I could to figure out how much work is actually needed. At that point you can get some reasonably accurate estimates from professionals on how much it'll cost. Then you can decide whether to fork over the cash or just paint over what you have. At least if you removed lots of rust, a new coat of paint may prevent further rusting.
 
It will cost you significantly more than 5k in my opinion. About 15 years ago I had a similar amount of rust repairs done and it was quite a bit more than that. Plus, it took more than a year to get done because I had to convince a body shop to even take on the job between insurance jobs. Most just want to do collision repairs because it is quick turn around easy money.

Maybe a reasonable alternative to doing it all is to to have sections repaired at a time...
 
Thanks for the comments! Doing things in stages is a good option to explore.
 
Welcome back! Looks like the steering wheel is at least a bit more comfortable to hold onto now. Maybe bigcatt will chime in since he just got through with his http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311814
But I'm guessing $5k isn't going to get it complete. Personally, I'd look at replacing as much bolt on steel as possible for now, then do it again when the budget allows. Once you're satisfied head to paint. I totally understand the time thing, that's why I bought what I did, I just don't have time for projects these days.
 
Haha, yeah, the stearing wheel was falling to pieces!

One challenge is finding the right person/shop to do the work. Any thoughts on the places that say they specialize in restorations? I have a couple of those near me that I will check out. I'm kind of leery of regular body shops for all the reasons cited in this forum.
 
Haha, yeah, the stearing wheel was falling to pieces!

One challenge is finding the right person/shop to do the work. Any thoughts on the places that say they specialize in restorations? I have a couple of those near me that I will check out. I'm kind of leery of regular body shops for all the reasons cited in this forum.


From what I understand of body shops, the best way to work with them is to pick some specific items to repair and pay as you go. Dropping off the truck without smaller, measureable goals usually ends up badly.....

You need to keep them accountable throughout the process. If all you do is tell them "work as hard as you can until you reach $5000..." it's pretty clear that you won't get their best effort and you certainly won't even have a truck in primer.....

Unfortunately, bodywork requires a LOT of manhours.... and those hours all cost money. If you don't have the ability or time to do the majority of prep work yourself, it's definitely going to be expensive. From what I've heard, paints & additives are getting insanely expensive too. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it's almost $2000 just for those items. :eek1:


-G
 
Nice . . .

A very nice 1st Gen, mad even better by having been your Dad's. Enjoy and keep us up on the restomod.
 
Greg is so right. It took 8 months for my rig to get done. The price was right but the time sucked. The top restoration shop in my area would have charge twice what I paid or more but he is a perfectionist, I did need perfect. You probably already know this but you can do anything unless rocker panels are good, that is the backbone of truck. Paint alone will be $5,000.00 or more. A full off frame restoration is 30K and up. My deal was I bought all the parts and body shop supplied the labor and paint. I got a lot of bang for my dollar it just took forever. The body parts are generally reasonable cost and work well. Try buying all the large parts at once it will save you on shipping. A lot of the parts are cheaper to replace than pay a body man to restore.

Craig
 
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I hope you kept the white Steelies and dog dishes. She looks great!
 
Thanks again all, some great advice. And Senor, I will definitely keep those wheels and dog dishes! I'm surprised I still have them after all these years.
 
Greg had the best advise with dropping it off somewhere to get a couple issues delt with at a time. Otherwise, its likely to end up in "paint prison" forever! Honestly, if you did drop it off somewhere and tell them to give it back when all the rust is fixed and its painted, it would likely run around $10k-$15k pretty easy.

Also, your goal of "80%" is really the best way to go! You can still enjoy a truck thats "only" that nice!
 
Andrew, here is what $2000.00 will buy. Cab supports, A & B pillar repair
pieces, cab floor sections, rocker box supports, body mount kit, fire wall
grommets, and a few tools.

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My picture of the ugly steering wheel.

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And the dog photo. Osage, Doobie, & Chaoz.

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Nice!

Only the 1st Gen crowd can sympathize with a $2000 sheetmetal bill..... And that doesn't even include fenders, doors or bedsides! :yikes:

We end up paying more for replacement parts than other guys pay for their whole truck!

That pile of parts will keep you busy for a long time. Looks like you picked up a few of my favorite tools as well..... :)


-G
 
Nice! Thanks for the pictures of what $2000k will buy. What source did you use?
 
I split my order between Classic Heartbeat and GMC Paul's. I didn't look at
Wes's website correctly, so I ordered some pieces from Paul's. Both provided great service, but Wes will take the time to answer any questions
or concerns about these trucks.
 

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