Returned from my summer trip home today and while I was down there my dad said hey I have this winch out here in the storage shed. You can take it if you want it. So went out to take a gander and there sat a Warn 4500 winch brand new still in the box. Now all I have to do is figure out what to do with it. No way am I losing my Ramsey 12000 in the front. Thinking baout fabbing up a mount to hook it in the rear with the 2" receiver, that way I can use it on the Jeep and the back of my truck.