fuel cell

[cegusman]

I dont remember if anyone has said anything about this already but does any company make a fuel cell with a pickup tube that swings freely inside the tank? So no matter what angle you are at it is at the gravitational bottom of the tank with the fuel?

That idea has come up, never looked into it though. Could be the solution.

 

[darkshadow]

yeah but it could only go in an arc, and wouldent reach the back/front corners.

an idea i just had is a hard pick up tube, that goes to the bottom of the tank has a 90* elbow that swivles, and a leg that run paralle with the tank bottom, with a little wieghted roller on the end.

so as you when up a hill it would swing to the back of the tank.

i am going to draw a pic for fun

 

[afroman006]

Well theoretically for my idear you can use a soft tube that is longer than the tank is deep. Extra tube laying on the bottom of the tank probably wont hurt anything and you can make it long enough to reach the corners if need be. Your idea would work well, probably even better if you used a round tank too, so that fuel has nowhere to hide.

 

[imiceman44]

Well theoretically for my idear you can use a soft tube that is longer than the tank is deep. Extra tube laying on the bottom of the tank probably wont hurt anything and you can make it long enough to reach the corners if need be. Your idea would work well, probably even better if you used a round tank too, so that fuel has nowhere to hide.

That is how my model airplane tank was, it works but you need some tubing that will not rot when submerged in fuel all the time or actually harden.
The ones in the airplane were silicone, maybe that could work.

 

[darkshadow]

Well theoretically for my idear you can use a soft tube that is longer than the tank is deep. Extra tube laying on the bottom of the tank probably wont hurt anything and you can make it long enough to reach the corners if need be. Your idea would work well, probably even better if you used a round tank too, so that fuel has nowhere to hide.

i dont think a round tank would be THAT much better, things like this are ment to help with low fule and inclines.


if your running a 45* angel and have a 1/4 gal in your tank you need to look elce where to fix the problem

 

[Ronnie4wd]

This is the one I bought and how I mounted it.
Around all of the things there are going to be aluminum when I get the time to cut out the pieces.
To the right are the rubber mountings where my air compressor will be when the box around the things is ready.

 

[cegusman]

Cool, you still plan on testing it this weekend?

 

[Ronnie4wd]

Yes we wheel every other Saturday.
Today I drove home from work on road and that worked so now it´s the offroad test on Saturday.

 

[cegusman]

Try and run it 1/4 full too if you can.

 

[Ronnie4wd]

It did really well no starvation 1/8 full did not measure the angles because I was only in 3 wheel drive so it wasn´t so easy doing the tougher trails this time.
I broke one locking hub so that will be the first thing to fix before next wheeling trip.

 

[cegusman]

Did you leave the foam in the cell? I heard that diesel will eat it over time.

 

[Ronnie4wd]

Yes the foam are still in there.
Where did you hear that, maybe I´ll have to check that.

 

[cegusman]

Not sure where I read that, I will see what I can find.

 

[cegusman]

Here it is http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63402 post number 4. I think there is some diesel safe foam out there just have to find it.

We used a small aluminum cell from Jegs on a diesel powered project recently. The only thing we had to do was remove the foam from inside the tank. We were advised that the foam would degrade and make its way through the fuel system. If you are worried about extreme angles, I would invest in a check valve for the vent line, that way fuel won't go pouring out while you are up on your side. The other thing to watch for is the material used as gaskets on some cells. Some manufacturers use materials that will degrade when exposed to diesel, this was one of the reasons we used the jegs unit (it was also really inexpensive).
For the pickup, you need something that is flexable. In oval track cars, we use a piece of flexable hose, with a weight attached to the bottom end of the hose. That way, whichever way the fuel swings, the pickup goes with it. Just have to make sure you use something that will not gall up the inside of the tank, leaving little shavings in it. As long as you keep enough fuel in it, the pickup should follow, even better when you put it on its side like that.
Hope this helps

 

[protechk5]

This is the one I bought and how I mounted it.
Around all of the things there are going to be aluminum when I get the time to cut out the pieces.
To the right are the rubber mountings where my air compressor will be when the box around the things is ready.

Hey Ronnie you still running that same setup? Any problems issues? What brand is that?