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Garden shed with apartment ideas

CyberSniper

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I live on acreage with a pond and a creek. My house is tiny (1500sqft) feeling because of the layout (It's kind of too open in the main living area and there is only one bathroom on the main living level of the ranch). It is perfectly fine for the two of us. It gets cramped when we have overnight visitors. We will go months with no visitors then we'll have someone stay with us for 1+ weeks. It would be a PITA to add on to it because while it does have a basement, it has partial crawlspace/rat walls anywhere we could add on to. So lots of structure management if we were to add on. And that space we technically don't need most of the time.

We have a pool. It would be nice if we had a bathroom near the pool. The garden shed is 70' from the pool. Right now both the upstairs and basement bathrooms are a long ways away from the pool. Both bathrooms are about the same to get to. The basement one might be easier, because you can just walk in through the basement garage... but then people are going through my creepy basement.

It's probably our forever house. We have no heirs, so I don't give a shit about how it ends up in probate when I die. In reality, if we were to sell it'd probably all be torn down and end up a subdivision for rich people.

I have an existing garden shed. It's a POS of 16x16. I could get away with replacing it with a 16x24 pretty easy. The assessor would notice but at the end of the day I'm zoned agriculture and they wouldn't think much of it since I already had one and I have a giant garden. I'd just need to make it look like a garden shed. Which is easy. I have two single-chamber septic tanks and I could easily add a third one and Tee it into the second one for the house, which I would do. The drainfield is slightly overbuilt. I can easily run water (I already have water over there for the garden, but I'd run a new line). Same for Cat6 (there is already 2 Cat6 and 2 RG6 and 1 10/3 running to existing shed). I'd run more and new stuff since I'd be trenching again (I have a shallow trencher, goes about 30" deep). Probably run 2AWG in conduit and add some multimode fiber this time.


So let's say I made it 16x24. To fit in with the rest of the structures, I could do up to a 12/12 roof. Two courses of concrete block. I was thinking conventional build. I'd drop the joists down on the 2x8x8' walls such that I could have ~8' ceiling in the first floor, or just enough to fit a cab-less compact tractor in. That would allow me to maximize headroom on the second floor for a bedroom/sitting area.

8x16 of that first floor would be for a 3/4 bathroom and tiny kitchen with a tiny kitchen table... plus stairs that include a landing. The rest would be the "garden shed". I could go bigger, there is technically nothing preventing it, just that lumber is cheapest for a 16' span (I'd just use 2x12x16' for the joists, 2x10x16' for the rafters/rakes, 2x8x8' for the walls) and it would be least likely to draw attention and block the view of the yard.

Have you guys seen anything like this? I don't normally build "from plans" but this is the kind of project I think I should at least have a Sketchup of.
 
We have a garage appt with bathroom kitchen and bedroom/sitting area. It's slightly bigger than what you're building but I can send pics of the layout if it would help
 
Yeah, I'm looking for ideas. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has done something like this.

The reason I'm thinking 8x16 would work for the first floor is that is the size of a lot of usable space in a travel trailer, when you replace the space taken by a bed with the stairs. I figure I can fit the mechanicals under the stairs. You can have an ample-size 3/4 bathroom in the first 6', even leave enough room for a small washer/dryer. That leaves 10' for the kitchen/stairs. Which should be more than enough room for a sink, some counter, and an apartment-size range and an apartment-size refrigerator.
 
My sister and my brother in law built a barn, and put an apartment in the rear loft, but it's on a lot larger scale than you are talking. They built it to live in and then sale their house in town, while saving money to build their house out in the country. They then messed up and had two kids (making three) while in the barn.....

They are just now finishing up their house, and will have a very nice living space for any guests in the barn.

Martin
 
The thing you have to be careful about about here is water taps. You can't supply 2 dwellings on 1 tap, called a compound tap. Each dwelling has to have its own tap.

But we live in a water starved and highly litigated area so maybe not an issue in other parts of the country.
 

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