I am biting the bullet and going to get a detroit installed in the 14ff instead of welding it. Here is what I was qouted. Detroit-$390 Install-$165 Shipping for Detroit $20 Total $575 Sound reasonable to you guys? I know it will hurt me now on the fundage but 2 months from now in Moab I will not even think twice about the $$$. I guess I am looking for some "ya go ahead and get it over with"