Gov bomb question

[colbystephens]

Friend has a 10 bolt rear w/ a govlock. He needs to run his spare, but it's smaller than his other tires. Can he run that small tire On the govlock axle, or does it need to be put on the open front end? It will have to be there a while.

I know I couldn't do that on my Detroit locked rear, but I don't know if a govbomb is a full locker or not.

 

[sweetk30]

no traction adding device other than full selectable like arb or ox locker will be safe with diffrent size tires.

and if on the front = pull to shorter tire side bad.

 

[Jessie James]

Yeah, I would not put it on the back. I'd put it on the front.

Can he use a can of fix-a-flat on the bad tire? That stuff worked for me once...

 

[sweetk30]

fix a flat wont fix sidewalls / bead leaks / and major holes.

fix a flat actualy eats the inside of the tire basicly. it softens the rubber liner inside and lets it find its way in to the hole to help seal it.

10+ years as tire guy i hate the crap.

 

[Bowtie85]

my 97 sierra had a 255/70/16 and a 265/75/16 on it when i got it. lets just say the gov loc was not very happy with it at all. So imma agree with the above, no.

 

[Orange85]

I recommend NOT using fix a flat, us mechanics hate the stuff when we have to deal with it.

Also put the smaller tire up front especially if it has to be there for awhile.

 

[gotblazers]

fix a flat wont fix sidewalls / bead leaks / and major holes.

fix a flat actualy eats the inside of the tire basicly. it softens the rubber liner inside and lets it find its way in to the hole to help seal it.

10+ years as tire guy i hate the crap.

So im not the only guy that works in a tire shop . I had to pull a beamer tire off the rim the other day and it was full of that shet, Looked like a bunch of jizz .

 

[colbystephens]

a valve stem would make for an awful narrow "entry" point...

 

[owenst7]

I think the G80s are like 100rpm difference before the actuator will engage the clutches...if they are close in diameter, it probably won't matter. It's not like it's going to overheat or anything. If it's going to be an issue, it will engage when you're going around a corner and basically just lock like it would if the ground was loose and you were spinning one tire. Just test it out and don't go drifting corners are 5000 rpm.

You can look up what the rpm difference is and calculate the % difference in circumference and figure out what it would take. If we're talking about like a 245/65 vs 265/75 or something though, I really doubt it would be a big issue. The % difference in circumference is just not that much. It's not like the whole purpose of the thing isn't to deal with a differential in tire speeds anyways...the issue is just that the G80 might break if you look at it cross eyed, but under normal use, it's not going to damage it like it would a limited slip. Friction lockers wear out under any use because they work by dragging when there is a differential, but the G80 is an on/off locker that is either spooled up or open. There's not really any "wear" on the clutches because they are not designed to ever slip at all.

 

[colbystephens]

Good info there, thanks! We ended up moving the small tire to the front before we did any driving, tho. However, 11:30 last night my buddy called me (woke me) to tell me that the wheel he installed fell off in the Safeway (grocery) parking lot. The previous owner bought some Escalade wheels and then installed some aluminum spacers to get the wheels positioned in the right place. It looks pretty ugly, as far as I'm concerned.

So I drove down there with a jack to lift it up because he didn't have one. He put the nuts on the lugs through the spacers on backwards (cone pointing out, rather than in). They backed off and chewed up the lugs and aluminum spacer pretty good. So he spent an hour trying to get some lug nuts on so he could drive it to my house. Thank God this happened in a parking lot on a clear, dry evening rather than on the highway (which was where he was headed! )

I tried to tell him to be gentle chasing the threads with a nut to get the aluminum out, but in his frustration he went at it like a gorilla. Really screwed up his studs. Long story short, we got it to my house and now we have to pull the axle shaft and put in his spare so that he has decent studs. Also, he has to go find a new set of lug nuts because some of his are too jacked to reuse. Uggh.

 

[imiceman44]

Don't you love friends like that.

Good info there, thanks! We ended up moving the small tire to the front before we did any driving, tho. However, 11:30 last night my buddy called me (woke me) to tell me that the wheel he installed fell off in the Safeway (grocery) parking lot. The previous owner bought some Escalade wheels and then installed some aluminum spacers to get the wheels positioned in the right place. It looks pretty ugly, as far as I'm concerned.

So I drove down there with a jack to lift it up because he didn't have one. He put the nuts on the lugs through the spacers on backwards (cone pointing out, rather than in). They backed off and chewed up the lugs and aluminum spacer pretty good. So he spent an hour trying to get some lug nuts on so he could drive it to my house. Thank God this happened in a parking lot on a clear, dry evening rather than on the highway (which was where he was headed! )

I tried to tell him to be gentle chasing the threads with a nut to get the aluminum out, but in his frustration he went at it like a gorilla. Really screwed up his studs. Long story short, we got it to my house and now we have to pull the axle shaft and put in his spare so that he has decent studs. Also, he has to go find a new set of lug nuts because some of his are too jacked to reuse. Uggh.

 

[colbystephens]

Eh, I've been in similar situations. Didn't bother me much, but I am getting a bit tired of crawling around in the gravel.