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grade 8 good enough for the motor mount bracket...........

It doesn't really get better then grade 8 unless you are talking about expensive aircraft bolts or specialty bolts that are expensive also.

Harley
 
I just put in a motor, grade 5 is what came stock on my 350 although i had some grade 8 lying around so i used those just because the heads on the grade 5 ones were bad. if you have grade 8 bolts your fine, but really from the factory grade 5 was all they needed.
 
i have heard that grade 8 is the strongest but can break a little easyer then grade 5 from being too rigid.

is this true?
 
Ive heard something similar. Grade 5 will bend before it brakes, grade 8 has no give/bend so it just breaks. It takes more for a grade 8 to break than it does 5 tho AFAIK.
 
G8 is stronger than G5 in every way. G5 will fail completely in both shear and tensile stress before G8 will even deform. The "old wives tail" about G5 being "better because it will bend" is simply not correct, but possibly due to the fact that G8 often does not show signs of stress before failing where you can often see bent or deformed G5s before breaking. But the simple fact is that if you break a G8, the G5 would have been LONG gone...
 
I personally have bent Grade 8 bolts and seen other people bend them also. Like Baddog mentioned. They take alot more load without breaking but when they break they do tend to shear off or snap.

Grade 5's usually bend/deform more before they break but Grade 8's will bend/deform also depending on the circumstance. They just don't bend/deform as far before they break off.

Harley
 
lol, i wonder how long that "gr 5 is better" myth is going to survive. Seems never ending... every time i see someone say that on a forum i correct them, but new people keep on bringing it up. Maybe there should be a pasty about this in the garage forum... lol! :grin:

j
 
jekbrown said:
lol, i wonder how long that "gr 5 is better" myth is going to survive. Seems never ending... every time i see someone say that on a forum i correct them, but new people keep on bringing it up. Maybe there should be a pasty about this in the garage forum... lol! :grin:

j

I was wondering that myself.
 
:blush: lol i shouldent have said anthing :cool1:

the only reason i said this, is becasue the last time i made a similar post to this one someone told me grade 5 was better.
 
k5freak44 said:
:blush: lol i shouldent have said anthing :cool1:

the only reason i said this, is becasue the last time i made a similar post to this one someone told me grade 5 was better.

actually, it was a good thing that you did... the last thing we need is some poor noobie guy ending up dead because he "heard" that gr 5 was better and so he used it on all his suspension and steering parts. If you're not an engineer and can't run the numbers on a fastener, its a pretty good rule to always use gr 8 for auto applications if its going to be subjected to much load at all. Sometimes it will be overkill... but overkill in this case isn't going to get you killed like under-spec'ing something might. :)

j
 
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