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hahaha. What the hell pepboys? (inspection BS)

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Well we can't pass it because your carbon canister isn't hooked up, there is no pre heat hose, and no cats.

"sir, it's an 84... It is exempt from emissions"
"well it came from the factory with it so it has to be there"

"yea and it came with a 305, 29 inch tires, 1/2 ton axles, manual windows, white paint, a red interior, a chrome bumper, and numerous other bull****., you really think a 25 year old truck is going to be stock? Dumbass, get you're ****ing head out of your ass"

then I storm out and lay some rubber..

oh yea. Apparently my air filter won't pass either. It doesn't have the stock "snorkel"
 
The 25 year rule only means it is emissions exempt. But if it came from the factory with cats, mufflers and smog stuff it still has to be there. That is whyI like my diesel K5, I can put a gas motor in it and only have to have mufflers, they can't say anything about the other things.

As for the air filter that is bs.
 
The 25 year rule only means it is emissions exempt. But if it came from the factory with cats, mufflers and smog stuff it still has to be there. That is whyI like my diesel K5, I can put a gas motor in it and only have to have mufflers, they can't say anything about the other things.

As for the air filter that is bs.

well see heres the thing. Drove down the road and they could care less about the cats and smog crap. They said it just has to pass safety stuff. Like tail lights blinkers wipers etc. He said I have to have wipers but I don't need a windshield... Gotta love texas.
 
Wow, pepboys doesn't do anything like that around here. Also, they are employees of a huge business, instead of a single man "hole in the wall" operation where all they want is your money. So really, he's just following the rules and couldn't give a sh1t about your business. :)
 
Wow, pepboys doesn't do anything like that around here. Also, they are employees of a huge business, instead of a single man "hole in the wall" operation where all they want is your money. So really, he's just following the rules and couldn't give a sh1t about your business. :)

yea that's kinda what I figured.
 
Many years ago, before we threw the law out, Fl. used to have safety inspections.

I had a favorite place I went with my old Jeep. But the guy was on vacation, so I went to another place that folks said was real easy.

Guy gets in, wants to know where the windshield wiper switch is.
Told him to pull the little ball out on the motor on the top of the windshield.
Nothing happened. Told him it had to be running.
He switched the key on, nothing happened.
Again said it had to be running.

Finally cranked it up and the vacuum wiper motor started working.
He asked about the passenger side. I told him to take hold of that handle and pull it towards him.
Wiper moved over.
Now push it back.
Wiper moved back.

He actually did it a couple of times before he realized that it was just a manual wiper......
Grumbled, but said he would pass it since it was factory.

Pulled up on the e-brake, put the jeep in first, and said hang on, it may move as he let off on the clutch.

A single 2.5X6 inch brake shoe in a drum on the drive-shaft......Yeah, it drove off just fine.
Finally convinced him that was factory too.

Then came the brake test.
I had a 1932 Cadillac vacuum brake booster on the system, so it had good brakes.

But, the jeep was so short, he could not hit the front and back pads on the tester at the same time.
I begged him to let me do it, but he told me he had been driving longer than I had been alive and he could darn well do this.

Came roaring up at about 30, slammed on the brakes and his foot slipped off the steel pedal.
Jeep took out the headlight tester and slammed into the block wall at about 25.

That was was the back wall of the parts store.
All the parts on those shelves flew off, a couple of the heavier ones made it all the way through the plate glass windows on the front.

Crumbled several of the blocks.

I helped him out of the Jeep, dusted the concrete dust off my undamaged bumper, and told him I would come back later.

He told me hell no, put my sticker on the windshield and told me no charge and never come back again...

Before the next year they did away with the inspections.
Shame, I wanted to go back there again. That was fun.
 
Thats youtube material right there

x2 sounds like something that could happen. Most of those guys are know it alls and tend to get pretty ignorant..

And then there are some that get the whole old truck thing.

"did your truck come stock with cats?"
"not that I recall, no"

"didnt think so. What about that missing stud."
"well actually there's still 3 more studs than stock. =)"

"Alllllllrighty. But I can't let the seatbelt pass. It's frayed where the buckle sits."
"theres a spare in the back seat actually. Never got around to putting it on."

He hands me a wrench. Haha.
 
Well we can't pass it because your carbon canister isn't hooked up, there is no pre heat hose, and no cats.

"sir, it's an 84... It is exempt from emissions"
"well it came from the factory with it so it has to be there"

"yea and it came with a 305, 29 inch tires, 1/2 ton axles, manual windows, white paint, a red interior, a chrome bumper, and numerous other bull****., you really think a 25 year old truck is going to be stock? Dumbass, get you're ****ing head out of your ass"

then I storm out and lay some rubber..

oh yea. Apparently my air filter won't pass either. It doesn't have the stock "snorkel"

Let me first say this, just because the vehicle is exempt from emissions testing DOES NOT mean you can take any of the emissions equipment off. It is a FEDERAL LAW for emsissions and it can NEVER legally be removed whether or not the vehicle needs/does not need testing any longer.

Now if your state has some kind of "inspection" other than emissions testing they should in no way say anything about your emission equipment not being there and that they can't do your inspection, they could however notify the higher ups and let them know that YOUR vehicle is missing emissions equipment and give them your info.
 
Let me first say this, just because the vehicle is exempt from emissions testing DOES NOT mean you can take any of the emissions equipment off. It is a FEDERAL LAW for emsissions and it can NEVER legally be removed whether or not the vehicle needs/does not need testing any longer.

Now if your state has some kind of "inspection" other than emissions testing they should in no way say anything about your emission equipment not being there and that they can't do your inspection, they could however notify the higher ups and let them know that YOUR vehicle is missing emissions equipment and give them your info.

either way. First person to refuse to inspect my vehicle. I've never had a problem before..
 
The fact Florida has no yearly inspections is another good reason to live there--along with not much cold weather and no snow,bikini clad beauties on the beacheslower cost of living than here ,etc..

.I HATE going for a sticker every year,it gets worse every year here and more expensive to geyt a vehicle to pass...they raised the cost to 35 bucks this year,used to be 29 bucks--I feel its money thrown away,it does nothing to increase "safety" ,as many vehicles get waved thru if the owners have buddies at inspection stations--plus the 35 bucks could go towards the parts needed to make it safe instead of a slush fund the state wastes and doesn't use for road repairs or other "good"...it is just another fee,tax,a complete farce..
 
yup, part of emissions testing is the visual inspection. hence the trend of hollowed out cats. i normally dont condone it, but in cases where the truck is old enough that it dosnt have to pass an emissions test, and the cats are old and clogged up, just use a breaker bar and smash out the media inside the converter. it basically becomes a resonating chamber in the exhaust system. still a strait through pipe, but looks like a cat, you tend not to get hassled.

it all depends on the inspector, but i will flat out disagree with the idea that the inspections dont do anything. for state and emissions its $30 bucks a YEAR to make sure all the cars on the road have lights, brakes, tires, and **** that are not putting the rest of us at risk. thats a bargan and a half. I have friends from florida, and they always joke about how many broken down cars there are on the side of the road because there are no inspections. and there are so many shady cars that people drive around that are minutes away from killing someone. Ill take my VA inspections and bothersome $30 a year to make sure some idiot isnt gonna kill me because he loses control of his vehicle.

Not tryin to dog anyone out, but workin in the automotive industry, ive seen some scary ass **** that people argued should have passed safety inspection. And as a tree hugger, im a fan of required emissions testing as well. guess im one of them darned left wing liberals afterall :whistle:
 
showing my age here.........

Fla. used to have inspection "stations" run by the state that you had to go to....that sucked....long ass lines...and if you failed..you had 30 days to fix it and bring it back.

you sat in the car, and drove it through a little building where they checked all the safety stuff and then they lifted the front end of your car or truck and used a bar to look for play in the front end,,,then you pulled forward into some rollers that tested the brakes....then pulled forward again to test the rear brakes..

if you passed you got the sticker...if you failed..you got a pink slip for 30 days..and they didn't tell you what part of the system failed....only that it failed...so if the front end had a loose part, like a ball joint...you had to figure it out.....:D

in high school , I had a 65 chevelle 396 4 speed....I went for the inspection, when my front tire dropped into the rollers for the brake test, the battery cable decided to short out against my headers..:D
The resulting battery cable fire and smoke show had the station attendants running around like the keystone cops !! I didn't pass that day...go figure...

good times..:thumb:






and BTW.....1 ton diesel in TX....14.50 for the test....10 minutes,,,, done.
No emissions B/S...:waytogo:
 
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<---will never live anywhere with testing unless the job moves me there and PAYS VERY WELL.
 
Sounds to me that everywhere you have been going has not done it right, and you finally got caught by someone who knew the law. Except for the cats, the fixes are trivial so why not just do it and be legal?

I took my Blazer in to get smogged and they immediately pointed out the pre-heat tube was missing and sent me away to get it fixed. At least they did not charge you, some outfits in CA used to do that a long time ago and THAT was something to get upset about. $25 or whatever it was just for them to tell you they could not test it. Grrrr.
 
You guys think that is bad here in CA its insane. Not only do you have to pass a visual inspection but emissions esting as well. So it all has to be there and it all has to function. Not to mention there are just some parts that just arent around anymore unless you get REALLY lucky and find them in a junk yard. It sucks.
 
My Jeep was a '60 model CJ5 with dual rear wheels, channel iron front bumper and Konig PTO winch.
So when it hit the wall, it was not as hard a jolt as some trees or stumps I had hit.

This had to be about 1972 or so, and there was no emissions testing done. I don't think that Cats had come out yet.

Nowhere in my area I know of had the rollers. They all had a low drive up platform with four traction pads that could move.
They were hooked to some liquid indicators that measured how much braking action each wheel produced.

In what someone had to think was a time saving idea, the headlight aim tester was mounted on a rail that ran across the front of the brake tester.
You pulled up on the brake tester, slammed on the brakes. Then got out and rolled the headlight tester from one side to the other checking the headlight aiming.

Of course that meant that the headlight tester was the first thing to go when my Jeep went completely thorough the brake tester.

It varied from place to place, but some things they would adjust or fix for you. Never saw anyone adjust brakes, but most of them would adjust the headlights.

Problem with that was, whoever wrote the specs for headlight aiming, apparently did not do any nighttime driving.
Once they adjusted them, your high beams would not reach half as far as the old low beams did.
And you could pretty much forget about the low beams.
My father's LTD was set just about perfect from the factory. Great range without blinding any oncoming traffic.

The night before his first inspection, I parked the car in the driveway, marked a spot on the concrete where the front of the front bumper was, and drew circles on the garage door in pencil where the high and low beams hit.

After the inspection, I just set them back.
That worked fine for a couple of inspections. Then, one year, I screwed up. I missed the mark on the concrete and parked too close.
He didn't drive at night for a few days, then we started up the country one morning before daylight.

It was interesting. On low beams, folks kept begging for dims, and on high beam, we could look for coons in the tops of the pine trees alongside the road.

One poor semi drive kept asking, so my father flashed the brights at him to let him know we were on dims, and it lit him up in the cab. You could see him perfectly when he threw his arm up to block out the light.

I reset them that night.
The whole inspection finally crashed and burned due to the normal incompentance and corruption you get when government tries to do something like that.

Towards the end, there were some places in town that would fake a problem so they could get the job of fixing it, and others, a "donation" in addition to the regular fee would guarantee you would pass.
I heard that the going rate was $50.
Don't know for sure, because I actually never did that.
I kept my equipment up, and since that Jeep would take me places I couldn't walk out of, it was darn well as perfect as I could make it.

The only reason I had to pick and choose my inspection spots was the E-brake. Some folks would try to make trouble about it not stopping the Jeep.
I never really figured out what the heck it was for really.
It might help hold it on a hill when stopped, but there was no way it could actually stop the Jeep.

One inspector got going across the parking lot about 25 and hauled up on the handle for all he was worth.
The only thing that happened, was a loud grinding noise between the seats, and a cloud of awful smelling smoke rising up through the cracks as mud, grass, bugs, and who knows what all that had collected in the drum got ground up and burned from the friction.

He didn't try that again.....
 
My Jeep was a '60 model CJ5 with dual rear wheels, channel iron front bumper and Konig PTO winch.
So when it hit the wall, it was not as hard a jolt as some trees or stumps I had hit.

This had to be about 1972 or so, and there was no emissions testing done. I don't think that Cats had come out yet.

Nowhere in my area I know of had the rollers. They all had a low drive up platform with four traction pads that could move.
They were hooked to some liquid indicators that measured how much braking action each wheel produced.

In what someone had to think was a time saving idea, the headlight aim tester was mounted on a rail that ran across the front of the brake tester.
You pulled up on the brake tester, slammed on the brakes. Then got out and rolled the headlight tester from one side to the other checking the headlight aiming.

Of course that meant that the headlight tester was the first thing to go when my Jeep went completely thorough the brake tester.

It varied from place to place, but some things they would adjust or fix for you. Never saw anyone adjust brakes, but most of them would adjust the headlights.

Problem with that was, whoever wrote the specs for headlight aiming, apparently did not do any nighttime driving.
Once they adjusted them, your high beams would not reach half as far as the old low beams did.
And you could pretty much forget about the low beams.
My father's LTD was set just about perfect from the factory. Great range without blinding any oncoming traffic.

The night before his first inspection, I parked the car in the driveway, marked a spot on the concrete where the front of the front bumper was, and drew circles on the garage door in pencil where the high and low beams hit.

After the inspection, I just set them back.
That worked fine for a couple of inspections. Then, one year, I screwed up. I missed the mark on the concrete and parked too close.
He didn't drive at night for a few days, then we started up the country one morning before daylight.

It was interesting. On low beams, folks kept begging for dims, and on high beam, we could look for coons in the tops of the pine trees alongside the road.

One poor semi drive kept asking, so my father flashed the brights at him to let him know we were on dims, and it lit him up in the cab. You could see him perfectly when he threw his arm up to block out the light.

I reset them that night.
The whole inspection finally crashed and burned due to the normal incompentance and corruption you get when government tries to do something like that.

Towards the end, there were some places in town that would fake a problem so they could get the job of fixing it, and others, a "donation" in addition to the regular fee would guarantee you would pass.
I heard that the going rate was $50.
Don't know for sure, because I actually never did that.
I kept my equipment up, and since that Jeep would take me places I couldn't walk out of, it was darn well as perfect as I could make it.

The only reason I had to pick and choose my inspection spots was the E-brake. Some folks would try to make trouble about it not stopping the Jeep.
I never really figured out what the heck it was for really.
It might help hold it on a hill when stopped, but there was no way it could actually stop the Jeep.

One inspector got going across the parking lot about 25 and hauled up on the handle for all he was worth.
The only thing that happened, was a loud grinding noise between the seats, and a cloud of awful smelling smoke rising up through the cracks as mud, grass, bugs, and who knows what all that had collected in the drum got ground up and burned from the friction.

He didn't try that again.....

You really need to carry around a camera..
 
i hate inspections as well,but if there wasnt any,joe shmoe would never do anything but put gas in his car and never do any maintanence to be safe on the road.thats food for thought when your kid runs out into the street after a ball and the guy cant stop because his brakes are dead.they do however need to change the older vehicle laws.my truck is 40 years old and i cant get a antique plate for it because of the lift and tires.let alone the 3/4 ton conversion.i can get a specialty build plate but that limits my driving it even more.momand pop places will usually give you a brake on some things,and i use one place for all my stuff now,so he helps me out with certain things and will let soem emissions stuff slide as long as the vehicle if safe and everything checks out otherwise.he will also not make me pay till i fix stuff and take it back to reinspect and get the sticker.
 
I don't understand all the back and forth regarding inspection on this site.
All of my vehicles have been wayyyyy too modified to pass inspection, what with engine swaps, no emissions equip., unoriginal parts, etc etc.

I pay the inspection dude in little Mexico $60 in cash and he hands me a sticker. Easy as that. :whistle:
 

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