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"Hard-wiring" stock instrument cluster

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Edit: Sorry, links all died, here are the photos in no particular order: http://s831.photobucket.com/user/dy...er hard wire-LEDs C-K-R-V trucks 1973-1987 91


If this is of interest to you, bookmark it, I will just add photos/text to this post as I progress, which as with most things I do, will probably take a long time. This is a '90-91 cluster, but no reason this couldn't be done with earlier. Wiring is a bit different, speedo is different, but no real differences otherwise.

I am hardwiring the cluster due to the numerous problems caused by the flexible plastic circuit "board", and I'm sick of having the extra parts sitting there taking up space waiting for me to do something. Some may not consider it an issue worthy of this work, but I've had the cluster apart many times, increasing tension on the bulb sockets, straightening out the copper leads, making sure other contacts are good, etc. Done with that, it only works for so long.

Here is the plan: use common 12V +/- for all gauges and any lights that are NOT tied into the headlight switch. Use small multi-LED's siliconed or epoxied in place to replace the 168/194 bulbs. Use a 16 terminal Delphi GT150 connector to join the vehicle wiring to the cluster wiring. The LED's will have separate power/ground from everything else because to dim them, you need a PWM dimmer, and it must be connected to the + and - leads of the lights. If you don't want to dim them, +/- for everything could be common, as the LED's draw next to nothing.

Apologies for the picture clarity, it's a cheap cell phone. All I have to work with. Without further ado:

First strip the cluster down. You will need to remove all gauges, the spring loaded gauge terminals, bulbs, plastic circuit "board", etc. Make sure to remember where the bulbs came from, not all cluster bulb locations had bulbs in them. Headlight controlled bulbs are dimmed, so they must remain at least partially separated (whether + or -) from the high beam indicator, along with turn indicator bulbs, brake bulb, 4WD bulb, CEL bulb, and any other indicator light your cluster may have.

+,-,signal terminals on each gauge can be determined by tracing the plastic circuit board. I double checked I didn't get anything backwards, then used a sharpie to mark each terminal that was going to get a wire, with what the terminal needs to connect to (+,-,signal). If you have a hard time following a trace, use your sharpie to mark it every few inches until you find it's termination. The 1990/1991 circuit board is stamped with +/- and which gauge so it's real simple.

I used 4-40 nylon cap nuts (that's what I had on hand) to isolate any terminal on each gauge that is on a resistor...careful...one gauge this may be the -, another the +, another the signal wire. Note to self: always verify when working with electronics! As shown below:



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If you look close at the gauge picture immediately below, the - terminal I marked does not have continuity with the gauge housing (this means if the ring terminal touches the housing, it's a short. Thats bad). Cut the top of the nylon nut off, then drill the nuts out to the proper diameter to fit the terminal. They were still tight enough to thread on, but that is not critical, they are acting as a bushing. They just need to space the ring terminal away from the housing. A 6-32 nylon nut would require no work I suspect.

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With the nylon nut installed, the ring terminal can be installed (this is mocking things up). I used 6-32 nuts to secure the ring terminal, but the threads may be metric. They don't need a lot of torque, and they have pretty good thread engagement, so I am not real concerned with this. That nut will get a dab of loc-tite when I'm satisfied it all works. I may also "reverse" the ring terminals, and bend the wire end 90*, so that there is less chance it contacts another terminal, or the housing. We shall see. Hard to see, but this is the nylon spacer, ring terminal, and 6-32 nut on the - terminal.
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For wiring, I've decided to make my life easier and keep weird solder joints to a minimum. Instead of a single wire off a central trunk to each gauge for +/-, I'm going to run a string, crimping two wires to each terminal, as pictured. Wiring is coated in flux before crimping, as they will get a dab of solder as well. Notice the shrink tubing. Install this before you crimp the wires. :) After the soldering is complete, as much of the ring terminal as possible will be covered with shrink tubing, again to minimize shorting between terminals. Wiring inside the cluster can just lay in there, the LED's do not generate heat enough to be worried about it. Wiring on the back of the cluster (all lights, speedometer, instrument panel connector) will be secured to the back of the cluster with the 4-40 nuts/screws and cable clamps. With the right drill bit the 4-40's will thread into the cluster tight enough to not need the wrench on them. Used button heads because I had them, whatever you can get will work, but the button heads will keep clearance issues to a minimum, which is an issue with the electric speedometer.

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I think I had a better idea for the electric speedometer wiring, but this is what I ended up doing. 1/16" drill bit, two holes through each trace (+, -, signal). The stuff drills really easy, so no worries about messing it up. Clamped a thin board in a vise, used that to back the circuit board as I drilled. Thread wire through both holes, twist it back on itself, then soldered the wire on itself and to the trace. I ran a piece of shrink tubing up the wire after this solder, which completely covers the wiring on the underside. Should prevent shorting between the terminals unless I do something catastrophically stupid. This is going to be tough to wire up. I will probably have to order a three terminal metri-pack connector to be able to remove the speedometer if necessary, later. Otherwise the soldered on wiring would make it a real pain to remove, along with the wiring harness itself. I used a four terminal metri-pack 150 connector assembly I found at the wrecking yard (available at Mouser too of course), with the proper terminals from Mouser. Buy a cheap metri-pack crimp tool, it makes it far easier and cleaner.

Edit: If you do this drilling, be careful and check your work. I thought the speedometer I used (it's a spare) was bad. After soldering it all up, I hooked it up to a battery, and nothing. Turns out the drill bit on ONLY the - terminal of the board cut the trace...no contact. Added a bit more solder, problem solved.





This shows how I am using the wire clamps with the 4-40 screws and nuts. 1/8" clamp works good for 3 wires, 3/16" better for about 5 wires at most. Obviously depends on the thickness of each wire. Note that the 4-40 nut uses the same driver as the screws that hold the cluster together and in place. Also, it makes far more sense to thread the drilled hole in the cluster (tap works very quickly/easily, but the screw will work in a pinch)...use the 4-40 screw as a stud, and the nut on whatever you can access.

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This is how I routed the speedometer wiring. It could be shortened, but you need to make sure you have enough slack to pull the speedometer out enough to access the wiring in the rest of the cluster. Speedometer is on a separate plug so it can be removed without de-pinning it from the cluster connector.

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Success on the LED's! Or so I think. 8 SMD LED's so lots of room for failures (which does happen, at least with some LED's). As far as I can tell, most multi-SMD bulb assemblies being sold now will continue to work if one (or more) of the SMD's fail, which is good for something you don't want to have to remove. With the cluster the way it is, one out of 8 SMD's failing is not going to be noticeable. Seller on ebay is "more-things" and here was the auction title "2X T10 W5W 158 168 194 501 White 8 SMD LED Wedge Light Lamp Bulb DC 12V New". I got lucky with these, the SMD circuitboard assembly is held in by the "legs" which are the +/-. I had some older ones that were glued in the housing, and even after removed not so adaptable to this project. With these, I will bend the legs flat, and it will be flat enough to be siliconed to the bulb housing. (note when looking for bulbs...most of the T10 LED's sold have the legs/wires coming out the base of the assembly. The T10's I previously purchased with the wires out the base were glued in place, the ones I just bought with wires coming out near the top are not glued in place, so much easier to deal with. I recommend purchasing one or two first, then buying the rest after confirming their construction. So cheap and free shipping, no downside to purchasing two, then buying 3+ later to complete the project)
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I have changed my plan a bit, based on the fact that the indicator lights are separate. I will need to wire at least the feed side of the indicator lights individually...turn indicators, 4WD, brake, check engine, etc. Come to think of it, to keep the ability to change failed lights, or future mods, I will do all the dash lighting in the stock bulb holders/locations. Check engine (in my case) required a resistor in parallel with the LED (thats resistor to +/- of LED), it lights dimly when vehicle is running. (With help from Rampage and Fordum, proper resistor turned out to be a 1/4 watt 10K Ohm one)

Here is one of the "PC168" holder/bulbs disassembled, along with the LED. The white piece is the base of the LED. The bulbs/holder aren't supposed to come apart. Using jewelers screwdriver or something similarly thin and flat, from underside of holder push the tool up the "inside" of each brass leg, which will unlock the brass contact and bulb. The bulb leads are soldered to the brass pieces:
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Here is the LED sitting inside the bulb holder. Almost a perfect fit in regards to diameter. I will use a tiny bit of epoxy to hold the LED in the holder.
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Here is the back side of the bulb holder with the LED leads poking out the bottom. To get some strength here (so the LED leads don't take the stress) I plan on drilling another hole in the base of the holder, and soldering the wire to the bulb such that the solder joint is inside the holder. This way I can run the wires out the base of the bulb, and epoxy the wires to the base of the bulb holder.
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This is the "finished" bulb holder from the back. Procedure after bulb holder is "empty" is this: drill another hole in base of bulb holder, next to the existing one. Run +/- wires through holes. Clip leads off of LED as close as possible while still leaving enough metal to solder to. In the case of the diode side, you might try pushing the diode back towards the circuit board that holds the LED's, to make it more compact. Careful, the solder could break on the LED, or the traces in the board could pull up. Everything is pretty fragile as it is small. Make sure to buy plenty of spare LED's, I had a couple of bad ones (no idea if soldering heat did it, or bad out of the box) and I know I ruined a couple with careless handling. Additionally, JB Weld (and most epoxies) is not designed to work on plastic, and does not hold well to the bulb holder or wires. I scored the plastic, but really need to buy some plastic specific adhesive. Filling the bulb holder cavity completely with regular epoxy would probably work as well, if the LED fails, you'll need to replace the whole thing anyway. Yes the LED's work, and no, the dimmer does not work for them. They are on or off, which is how LED's are expected to react with varying voltage. If you are able to control the voltage much more precisely, you WILL see a dimming effect, but that is not going to happen with our dimmer. This is why PWM is used.

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Here is a video of the cluster with the PWM dimming working. I have not painted the inside of the cluster with chrome paint, so the only difference from the stock cluster, is the LED's.
Video of the PWM dimmer in operation.

Here is what I did to join the wiring for the LED's. I will do the same for all the indicator light grounds as well, since I won't be dimming them I can't have the lights and gauges/indicators share the same ground. Obviously now done they have srhink tubing over them. This is just the "crush sleeve" used in various splices, I have some that are worthless as made, but work great for this. Cut insulation, pull out, ready to use!

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Wiring "pinout" for the gauges is this, based on the '90 or '91 cluster PCB I have...I believe at least all 80's early 90's gauges are wired the same, never had a problem swapping them. *All as you are looking at the back of the cluster with the gauges installed*.

Left side, fuel: Left pin signal. Bottom pin -. Right pin +
Right side, top left, oil: Left pin signal. Bottom pin -. Right pin +.
Right side, top right, voltage: bottom pin +. Right pin -.
Right side, bottom left, temp: left pin +, top pin -, right pin signal.

No clock on the later cluster.
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Redoing the dash in my 80 Jimmy.......I will be following this one....:waytogo:

I probably will be using after market gauges and connecting to the stock dashboard harness and then use the original under hood wiring to connect to the new matching sensors supplied with the gauges....:D
 
Just to get you started, if you want to order parts, I ordered all the electrical components (connectors, terminals, seals, locks) from mouser.com. Select automotive connectors (or terminals, whatever you are looking for), delphi, and whatever "series" connector you want.

For instance, one of the 12 pin connectors I ordered was this one http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/15332161/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduiwKnAZR%2f4bVw8o1TAl77U7xUL7h4exDoI%3d Click "data sheet". That particular one the Delphi link doesn't work right, but drop 15332161 (manufacturer part number) into the search box on the page that pops up, and search. You will see the GT 150 2003-2004 catalog, download that, and you will get part numbers, pictures, etc. Many of the connectors are offered in both sealed and non-sealed, both will be listed in the catalog, but in different places.

Additionally, on the right after clicking search, you will see the connector and part number. Click "related products" and note that it lists the part number(s) for what mates to it, along with all the terminal part numbers, etc. In this case, need the catalog to figure out which of the mating connector you need.

Mouser is very reasonable on price and shipping, sometimes if I can't figure out the right one for some reason, I just buy a couple of each I *think* is right, because guessing on things like terminals normally costs you far less than a dollar.

Unfortunately, my pending order had one component that was on back order until April, so to save on shipping I opted to wait until it was available for the whole order to go out. HOPEFULLY I'm further along by then. :)
 
So will you be completely removing the plastic flex circuit sheet?
 
Yes, that will be eliminated. Only thing I haven't figured out yet is the LED for the check engine light, since LED's stay lit in that position at all times, as opposed to an incandescent bulb. That will be easy though.

I wouldn't see any point to this if that wasn't removed. Realistically you could probably solder wires right to the copper in the plastic sheet to eliminate the troublesome instrument panel (IP) connector, but since the bulbs are another big issue, that would still have to be solved, which means more wiring. Plus, it would be hard to make the copper trace to truck wiring connection strong enough to not break/pull off.

The introduced light issue will be dimming. The LED's won't dim very well without a PWM dimmer, but the "warm white" LED's replicate incandescent color pretty well so dimming may not be necessary (although I prefer to run my dash lights as dim as possible and still see the gauges). If necessary, it is fairly cheap to buy a 12V PWM dimmer that could be spliced inline with the headlight switch wire.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-24V-8A-...t=Home_Automation_Modules&hash=item3cce2dc840

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-Chan...143?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ccd9d74ff
 
If you wanted to keep the flex circuit but use a regular connector, you could just epoxy or bolt one side to the cluster and solder wires to the traces. Soldering to the traces is tricky, though. I've never had problems with the flex except for the lighting. I solved that by soldering wires between each of the little bulb sockets. The only thing that doesn't work is the high-beam indicator. So 4WD and high beam would have to be dealt with separately.

When you're done, you should try to contrast the cost and work for dimmer, LEDs, terminals, etc to something like an Autometer conversion.
 
The stock gauges look sooooo much better than the aftermarket gauges.

Martin
 
will be watching this one as well, with my usual terror of electricity.. :)
 
You guys are making this too hard. The money that you'll spend on new stock gauges is ridiculous. Why not just put in the aftermarket ones and call it a day?
 
Why not just put in the aftermarket ones and call it a day?


My intent is to use both...... speedo and fuel gauge - original OEM

oil -volt-water - aftermarket mounted in the original dash holes.

oil / water are mechanical. ( but may consider using electric and use the oem harness.... that's where the dash oem circuit trace comes into play.)

Volts is a no brainer...

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You guys are making this too hard. The money that you'll spend on new stock gauges is ridiculous. Why not just put in the aftermarket ones and call it a day?

You don't need new gauges, they work just find, the ribbon is the problem and he is eliminating that. He is basically just wiring them up like aftermarket gauges.

As for why not to go to aftermarket gauges, they go bad way more often than the OEM ones ever do, and they look WAY better than 99% of aftermarket gauge installs.

Martin
 
Why not just put in the aftermarket ones and call it a day?

Because I make *everything* difficult for myself. :)

To stir the pot, I haven't had a single problem (ever) with a GM gauge short of a tachometer, and that wasn't even my truck. I can verify the accuracy of each stock gauge independently except oil, and they are so close, if not exact, that aftermarket holds absolutely no value for me.

As to cost benefit, I can put a mark on the wall for how much my time is worth (which easily exceeds the cost of new gauges in regards to this project I'm sure), but I have no idea how much time converting to aftermarket would take, let alone coming up with something I like the looks of. I unfortunately like the stock gauge styling. The part cost is the easy one, time is the difficult one.

I will concede that I don't like how recessed the stock gauges are, nor the lighting. Aesthetically overall its good, but I wish the gauges were near the surface of the bezel for better visibility. That, I won't be changing though.
 
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The cluster sure looks more complex with all these stupid wires running around! If you had no intention of using an adjustable dimmer on the illumination LED's, all grounds could be combined, which might clean it up a hair. I ran wires for everything except the alternator light...so thats left/right turn, bright indicator, seat belt, brake, check engine, and 4WD. All gauges share the same +/- except the speedometer (as it is hard wired).

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Spent a few minutes yesterday testing the various bulbs and gauges. Another note: things like CEL and 4WD light are *constant 12V* and grounded to turn on, not the other way around. D'oh. Shortcut? Cut two wires off bulb, and reverse the +/-. I am posting this picture for twofold reasons...one is that it shows what I've done works, and (warning, diatribe coming up) the other is that quite honestly I'm sick of people saying stock gauges suck. This is but one picture, however I have *yet* to find a GM gauge that doesn't read correctly due to a gauge problem. My temp gauge has been verified as well, it is just as accurate. Based on the voltmeter face, every hash mark is 2.5V. So if you figure 14V is somewhere between the two hashmarks, the gauge is so close that any more accuracy would be useless. You are talking at best it's off less than 5% if you figure +/-.5V on a 12V measurement. If you think about the same margin of error on a temp gauge, that is 10* at 195*. Again, inconsequential. These guages are at best 22 years old. Make your own decision...is aftermarket really better? I do want to add that I have found that the voltage reading from the battery and/or alternator, may APPEAR wrong on the gauge, but if you actually measure at the gauge wire as I did, before it entered the cluster, that is all that is making it to the cluster. So you may think your gauge is wrong, when in reality the variety of connections between the sending unit (or in this case alternator) have changed the reading that much. In this image I did not compare alternator output to this reading, but I see over a 1V difference between the alternator voltage and what the fuel pump relay sees.

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Here is a picture of the style PWM dimmer I bought, and inside. $4.22 in June 2013, no shipping cost. Looks big, the internals are far smaller, and have screw holes already for mounting. You can go two ways...extend the potentiometer (knob that controls dimming) leads to somewhere you can reach it and have to mount it somewhere, or, as I did, set the potentiometer to where the display was your desired brightness, then measure resistance between wires one and two (center wire) and wires two and three at that setting. Find two resistors that match those values as close as possible. Unplug the potentiometer from the board, and solder your resistors to each of the male connectors on the board where the potentiometer was connected. It will fix the brightness to the same level. If you want maximum brightness at all times, you don't need the PWM controller. Might be a good idea to re-wire the headlight switch at this point. If you use the stock illumination wire, if for some reason the knob on the headlight switch gets rotated, you won't have dash lights until you remember why. :) On the headlight switch connector, simply solder a jumper wire between the dark green and brown wire...the dark green is the "illumination" wire (which goes to the fuse panel, through a 5A fuse, then back up to the cluster as a gray wire) and the brown wire is either the parking lights or headlights...either way, with the jumper in place, when the headlights come on, the green wire (and thus gray) gets 12V, and it is still fused at 5A. You COULD run a wire directly from the headlight switch, but that would leave a bunch of unused wires that would be a mystery to you next time you dealt with wiring. I soldered the +/- in/out directly to the PWM connector. I tried removing the connector, but could not suck enough solder off fast enough. I was worried about burning out other comonents. Unfortunately I didn't get good photos of this portion, the actual guts of the PWM I just attached to the housing inside the cluster housing, behind the fuel gauge, on a 4-40 screw that was already there for a cable clamp on the other side.

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This is the connector separated. Just put a small screwdriver under each one of the "tangs" on the left half of the connector shown, and pull outward. It will separate, and you can remove the PWM "guts" from the case.
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Notes: Do NOT play with the locks on the GT150 connectors. They are not designed to be taken apart. Taking them apart destroys the locking portion. Get your wiring and terminals put together, make sure it's all right, insert into the GT150, and lock them. Purple portion is all part of the locking assembly:
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These are after installing both connectors. Yes, I've got some wire culling to do (many of the wires are leftovers from the diesel harness, tach, and 80's cluster) but I will be swapping bodies, when I pull the harness I will clean it up properly. Note that to make the CEL work properly with the LED, I had to use a 10K Ohm 1/4 watt resistor between the + and - terminals on the LED. Very cheap/easy fix, just took a bit of time to get there:
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And the proof is in the pudding... :)
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Parts list, Mouser part numbers/link to parts:
GT150 Male 16 pin connector 829-13516907 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/13516907/?qs=/ha2pyFaduhuXwv9TF5%2bJTggbe31y/q7mcegwWc7Dpcy%2b1jheK8fMQ==
GT150 Female 16 pin connector 829-13516905 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/13516905/?qs=/ha2pyFaduhuXwv9TF5%2bJZcGbL/aNUh2uCmYS3vD%2brnr7XtYgWgD1Q==
GT150 Female Unsealed Tin Terminals (small wire) 829-12191811 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/12191811-L/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs7eK6h2EBtKnSHa2PTj7tEoqGQ/sSspiM=
GT150 Female Unsealed Tin Terminals (large wire) 829-12191812 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/12191812-L/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs7eK6h2EBtKnSHa2PTj7tEy9CMhtsqqe8=
GT150 Male Unsealed Tin Terminals (small wire) 829-15304701 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/15304701-L/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs7eK6h2EBtKlT1e6S47JcrSPWXdBcdGS8=
GT150 Male Unsealed Tin Terminals (large wire) 829-15304702-L ("L" may be mousers mistake) http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/15304702-L/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs7eK6h2EBtKlT1e6S47Jcrpvf4Yk9mYOQ=
Plastic Cable Clamp ~1/8" 644-CCS12-S8-M0 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panduit/CCS12-S8-M0/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMt5bLT1twLkeu8McRh43lzHewDAkfXPZF4=
Plastic Cable Clamp ~3/16" 644-CCS19-S8-M0 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panduit/CCS19-S8-M0/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMt5bLT1twLkeu8McRh43lzHewDAkfXPZF4= (probably could use larger, even 3/16" wasn't enough for all of them, I'd say adding 1/4" to the other two sizes to be prudent. You want a tight clamp to keep from stressing the various connections, so need a different clamp for different numbers/diameters of wire)

T-18 Crimp tool to make your metri-pack crimps look and function good: http://www.whiteproducts.com/tools.shtml Can be found on Ebay for ~$31, no idea what White charges.



General parts list:

LED's for lights

4-40 Button Head Cap Screw (for securing cable clamps to cluster)
4-40 nuts

6-32 metal nuts

6-32 nylon nuts (easiest way I found to isolate gauge studs where necessary)

Small ring terminals (22AWG works fine)

Small crimp-type wiring connectors to strip and use the metal portion to join the LED wiring.

Lots of small gauge wire. (~2000 GM 4 door FWD cars have a very long run of wiring down the drivers side where the trim panel covers the inside edge of the door sill...rip that off and remove the back seat, you can get ~6 foot lengths of 20+ wires in about 5 minutes.)

Solder/flux

Shrink tubing

Blue loc-tite (needs to come off if gauge replacement or removal is required)

10K Ohm 1/4 Watt resistor for check engine light LED


Delphi GT150 catalog http://delphi.com/connectors/assets/product_brochure/gt150.pdf

I'd say total cost (on the high end) was about $100 if anyone is interested in the cost comparison vs. going with some other option. Took me a LONG time, but for months I was waiting on backordered parts, and I was in no hurry. Crimp tool at $35 (w/shipping) was the single largest expense. I can make the argument that I needed it anyway, same as the loctite, shrink tubing, screws, nuts, etc. Most everything I already had except the terminals, connectors, and the crimp tool. Total cost to me for things I had to buy specficially to make this project happen was maybe $50.

Much of what I did and used is optional. But I think replacing the incandescents with LED's to be prudent, as even my '90-91 cluster housing was starting to "cook" around those bulb sockets, and the bulbs will fail eventually anyway. You could use another wiring connector as opposed to the metri-pack, but it was what I found quickly and easily with enough cavities for all the wiring, with some room for expansion if needed, later.

Edit: Adding that I use my trip odometer pretty much all the time, and the factory lighting (even after replacement with LED's) is deficient in this area. I ended up using one of the larger flat "paddle" style LED bulbs (looks like a tiny ping pong paddle with LED's on one side) mounted inside the cluster but angled toward the speedometer/odometer to illuminate it better. In hindsight putting a better LED under the speedometer/odometer in addition to the stock location would have worked better. I prefer dim dash lighting to help my night vision vs. full illumination, that preference may have led to the difficulty seeing the trip odomoeter with the standard lighting setup.
 
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Done. Questions? Comments?

Yes, the cluster plastic is scratched and dirty, I may get around to fixing that (have some headlight plastic polishing compound, interested to see if it works). Right after I figure out what happened with the temp gauge. Think I fried the sender inadvertently. :(
 
Why no factory tach?

Martin

I guess I have a few reasons really...the later (at least 90/91) dashes have no provisions for it...the "clock" position isn't cast as it was earlier. If you could open it up (which would require a fair bit of cutting with a dremel) you'd then have to figure out how to mount it, since the location doesn't have any posts to screw a gauge too. Unfortunately I didn't take a photo of the "new" cluster design, but I probably can if I think of it, since I still have the cover out working on the coolant temp issue. One of the C60 or whatever tachs that has the integrated fuel guage would be a solution I suppose, if the fonts matched up.

I already have my PROM programmed to be RPM/Speed limiting, so I'm not really concerned what engine RPMs are if I'm pushing it hard.

Lastly, if I'm doing something where I need to see RPM, I plug my laptop in, ending up with something like this http://www.tunerpro.net/images/ADXDash.gif Since I'm datalogging, I don't need to actually watch the RPM.

Realistically though, barring all that, even when I had a tach, I didn't use it for anything other than the occasional glance if I was really beating on the truck. I don't miss it.
 
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Done. Questions? Comments?

Yes, the cluster plastic is scratched and dirty, I may get around to fixing that (have some headlight plastic polishing compound, interested to see if it works). Right after I figure out what happened with the temp gauge. Think I fried the sender inadvertently. :(



Looks good. :waytogo:

That seems like a deep scratch over the speedo. You may need to wet sand that with 600 grit and work your way up to 2 or 3000 grit before you try the plastic polish compound. Start with 3000 and see where that gets you.

Also, in your first post you may want to change this line:
"Check engine will require a resistor inline ..."

to something liked:
"Check engine will require a resistor in parallel ..."
As it is now it sounds like you're adding it in series. I know you mention in a later post that you added it from + to - but people might get confused.
 
Change made, thanks for the input!

The "good" headlight housing polishing setups have 4 different grit sanding blocks that use a lubricant before you get to the polishing compound, which I have, so I think I'm pretty well set in that regard. I need to see about finding those blocks by themselves, they work really well, but I'm not going to buy another kit just for those. :)
 
One question if you don't mind.... Did you have any problems getting the speedometer coil thingy to sit correctly and spin the needle fine?

I just took my dash apart (more than was necessary) installing a tach into my 89, and now the speedo isn't happy. I knew it wasn't right as I was putting it back together, but was hoping for the best.

Done. Questions? Comments?

Yes, the cluster plastic is scratched and dirty, I may get around to fixing that (have some headlight plastic polishing compound, interested to see if it works). Right after I figure out what happened with the temp gauge. Think I fried the sender inadvertently. :(
 
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