Help with a debate on 14 Bolt SF vs. FF

[iwaxmyjimmy]

did someone say RC parts?

 

[fireplug]

What % of Beater's Posts Reek of Crap

I think I'm going to do some scientific research, and write and publish a report based on my findings. Look for the write up right here at CK5.

Dude, your always, in a pissy mood, always negative, always right, and can never let it die. This is soooooooo old. Right or wrong let it go man.

How bad is it when you're upsetting Manny of all people?

 

[beater_k20]

thank you, your feedback has been noted.

 

[MuddinManny]

Again, you fail to get the friggin' point. Don't you even read the posts. Here, I'll repost it here for you:

Hey Guys,

This was meant to be a simple post just to help stop a fellow wheeler from possibly making a poor business decision.

• He has 10 Bolts-front and rear. He wants to upgrade to a D60/14BFF combo, to run 35's, possibly larger down the road.

• Along come a couple of crawlers who tell him that a 14BFF is no good because he will lose ground clearance. That was the whole of their argument.

• They spun the story enough to make this young guy change his whole game plan, drop down to 33's and want to get a 14SF, just for ground clearance sake, which isn't what he truly wants. They intimidated him into a decision based on their wants, not his needs.

There is nothing wrong with a 14BSF axle. It has it's purposes, but if you could get a FF for the same price as a SF, the advantages of a FF far outweight a lousy 1" of clearance, especially in the MUD.

EDIT: HIGHLIGHTED AREA EMPHASISED, not done in original post

This is about building a rig on a budget, spending money wisely, doing it right the first time so down the road you don't spend money on the same crap again! So go ahead, mislead a fellow wheeler. Tell him it's fine to get a SF with 35's and upgrade to either a 14 BFF or convert the SF to a FF later down the road. That's a wheelin' buddy? Not your money, right? Not your back the guy busts to make a living and enjoy a hobby, right? Guess you're Mr. Money Bags. Why not give him all his options and let him decide, which is what this was about from the beginning; not ramming a 14 FF down his throat. But wait, I forgot, you never finish anything you start.


He originally wanted to go D60 but changed to keeping a 10 Bolt and running 8 lug Dana 44 outer's to match the 14 Bolt he was gonna get. Let's see....

My bad, he's already converting his front to 8 lug, has the parts, and already has the wheels. As far as the e-brake is concerned, as long as he has the 14 bolt cables, it should be a direct bolt up. That is what I have read here in CK5. If wrong, please correct me. I don't want to mislead him.

So yes, he won't gain weight in a D60, but he'll add some weight to the 10 Bolt with 3/4 ton running gear. So he hasn't fallen into that "trap" everyone else, including "you" have. He made a decision to which I fully support.

You cannot discredit tire weight and accessory weight added onto a vehicle just because it's not a "mondo" rig. Boggers, even at 35's are much heavier than other mud terrains or even aggressive all terrains. Tire weight is tire weight, just like a winch weighing 150 pounds is 150 pounds whether on a rig that's equipped with 29's or 44's, or a Ford, Dodge, Toyota, Sami, etc.. Same with gas cans, water cans, roll cages, tool boxes, tools, hi lift jacks, etc.

Or as My cousin Vinny put it:

Vinny Gambini: How could it take you five minutes to cook your grits when it takes the entire grit-eating world 20 minutes?
Mr. Tipton: Um... I'm a fast cook, I guess.
Vinny Gambini: What? I'm sorry I was over there. Did you just say you were a fast cook? Are we to believe that boiling water soaks into a grit faster in your kitchen than any place on the face of the earth?
Mr. Tipton: I don't know.
Vinny Gambini: Perhaps the laws of physics cease to exist on your stove. Were these magic grits? Did you buy them from the same guy who sold Jack his beanstalk beans?

I suppose the laws of physics cease to exist on your truck and in your world. Is your's a Richard Simmons magic truck? Did you buy them from the same guy who went bankrupt after selling the beans and switched professions to a used Chevy dealer?


What I've learned is how to recognize a smart mouthed disrespectful person and how to deal with them-STRAIGHT UP.

Manny

 

[koldsimer]

They're hydraulic driven too.

 

[iwaxmyjimmy]

Man thats my dream, a camaro on 39 mickey tompsons on some classic II wheels, on a 76 K5 blazer frame, oh and hydro motor wheels at all 4 corners. Back to reallity Peterson's 4 wheel and off road had an article about this kinda set up in one of there mags.

 

[beater_k20]

They intimidated him into a decision based on their wants, not his needs.

Why not give him all his options and let him decide, which is what this was about from the beginning; not ramming a 14 FF down his throat.

then sit back, shut your yap, and lets discuss the advantages and disadvantages of each.

But wait, I forgot, you never finish anything you start.

$100 says mine's drivable before yours.


oh, and nice throwing random useless crap in there.

 

[MuddinManny]

then sit back, shut your yap, and lets discuss the advantages and disadvantages of each.

$100 says mine's drivable before yours.


oh, and nice throwing random useless crap in there.

Only one who'se been shooting there mouth off is you. I believe the advantages and disadvantages have been discussed already here, and in multiple other places. No need to repeat what's been beat to death.

Take your money and save it for your rig. You need it more than I do.

Truth hurts, don't it? Don't like having your own stupidity shoved back in your face.

Manny