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Help with surging at idle on 90 burb TBI...

y5mgisi

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I just rebuilt the motor as many of you know. Now i have a problem with surging at idle. It only does it in gear, like if you stop at a stop light it will run /idle just fine for about 30 seconds then start to do this wiered up-down surge where it tries to die then picks back up over and over but never actually dies. The truck is throughing a code 33 that i cant seam to figure out. I took the truck up to a parts store here in portland that has one of those hand held scan tools(autoxray 6000) It has a funvtion where you can whatch what all the sensors are reading but it didnt show map. So here is the stuff that i got from it; this is running at idle in park
promID: 4551
IAC:39steps
temp:165.2
open loop
TPS: .62 volts
Intergrater: 128
O2:448mVolts
Knock: 0
Block learn: 126
o2 cross count:174 and rising quickly.

Does any of that strike anyone as odd? I really would like to get this surge problem out of my hair.
 
In my particuler case its going to be a map problem not a MAF Someone else allready posted that link before and ive done it all with no real conclusion. The only thing i havnt been able to do is see if the map is reading .1volt or less.
 
y5mgisi said:
Really? Do you hapen to know right off hand which wires i should probe?
Not off hand as im currently at work and do not have acess to my haynes book but im positive they cover it in the emissons section.
 
Maybe this would help?
map_sensor_wire_diagram.jpg
 
With the scanner, check to see that the Park/Neutral switch is operating properly. It can cause strange idling problems if it isn't telling the ECM the correct mode.
 
I'd say signal at "B" is where you'd look for the right voltage.

Autozone's scanner should show the MAP AND P/N switch, my Autoxray XP240 does, and it's only probably 10 years old lol. :)
 
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