Got this welder from my work for free.
Came with that plug
Need it to look like that last one which is the mig I have.
Anyone know what I need to do or where I can get the parts I need to switch this all over? Many thanks for the help
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Help with this welder please
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Got this welder from my work for free.
Came with that plug
Need it to look like that last one which is the mig I have.
Anyone know what I need to do or where I can get the parts I need to switch this all over? Many thanks for the help
You can hook that tig up with a plug like that but need to do the investigation to make sure.
The 4th conductor in the first plug is most likely an equipment ground. If you have a manual for the machine, it should tell you in there otherwise you can open up the machine and look to see how its wired. An equipment ground can be chased back to the chassis of the machine itself. Also, you should look to see how things are wired in your panel that you're hooking it to.
Without doing the investigation myself, I'd say you have a neutral and two 110 legs on a 220v breaker.
At any rate, you should be able to get the plug from a Menards or Home depot or the like.
For what its worth, I have a tig machine just like that. Using a plug very similar to the second one. All my blades are straight though. Mine may be the 50amp and that one may be the 30 amp.
The 4th conductor in the first plug is most likely an equipment ground. If you have a manual for the machine, it should tell you in there otherwise you can open up the machine and look to see how its wired. An equipment ground can be chased back to the chassis of the machine itself. Also, you should look to see how things are wired in your panel that you're hooking it to.
Without doing the investigation myself, I'd say you have a neutral and two 110 legs on a 220v breaker.
At any rate, you should be able to get the plug from a Menards or Home depot or the like.
For what its worth, I have a tig machine just like that. Using a plug very similar to the second one. All my blades are straight though. Mine may be the 50amp and that one may be the 30 amp.
Typically the 4 prong style plug is a 3 phase plug. Have you checked the voltage requirements for that machine to make sure it isn't a 3 phase machine?
Thanks for the info. I'll spend some time searching for the plug and wiring this weekend.
It very well could be. All ive done so far is said thanks and unloaded it from the truck. It's usually quicker to ask the brotherhood than to do leg work on my own.
There should be a spec plate somewhere on the machine, it will tell you what input voltage and phase.
Thanks for the info. I'll try and grab all the info off it tomoro.
why?
I have no idea why, but every 3 phase machine in my old shop had that same 4 prong plug.
I have no idea why, but every 3 phase machine in my old shop had that same 4 prong plug.
Alot of them do if not all of the 3 phase. Alot of the single phase stuff will also be wired with a 4 prong though to. Just not an indicator of anything. I agree he should check the machines tag. I have the exact machine and it is a single phase unit. Still no reason not to check though if for no other reason than to be thorough.
If it is 3?phase. Is it possible to convert it over to standard
As far as the machine I would say probably not BUT you could get a 3 phase converter for the house to run the machine but they aren't cheap.
lame-o!
well i'll check it all out tonight and go from there.
thanks for all the help scott.
well i'll check it all out tonight and go from there.
thanks for all the help scott.
I have no idea why, but every 3 phase machine in my old shop had that same 4 prong plug.
Well, a three phase machine has to have three hot legs to work, and if it has a ground, there is the fourth prong.
Depending on what flavor three phase it is, it may have to have a neutral as well as a ground.
Also, smoking, the plate he mentioned might not actually say 3 phase. I will probably say something like "240 volts 3....Well, Fart! I don't know how to type that symbol.
Its a zero with a line through it. That stands for phase. It will have a 1 or a 3 just before it. Usually right after the voltage.
Gotta dig up my keyboard map......
OK, copy and paste will work. Looks like this: 240V 3Ø or 240V 1Ø
Ok, according to the Lincoln site, it should be single phase. Looks like a nice machine.
I think this is the owner's manual for it.
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/servicenavigator-public/lincoln3/im565.pdf
There are two flavors for that machine's manual. They are here.
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/support/Pages/operator-manuals.aspx
The other one is newer than your machine and is not 208/230.
Check that it one of the models mentioned on the first page of the manual.
BE WARNED, that you might have to do a reconnect on the power input depending on what it used to be run on.
If the shop it came from was running it on 208, then you have to swap a wire at the switch to go to 230.
It tells how in the owner's manual.
Plus, its a standard two wire plus ground setup, so you can change the plug easily according to the schematic at the last of the manual.
Note though, it can draw up to 57 amps, so check the size of your service before you hook it up.
It can be run on less, just make sure the breaker is sized for the wire in the wall so you don't have a fire, and keep it on the lower settings.
I think this is the owner's manual for it.
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/servicenavigator-public/lincoln3/im565.pdf
There are two flavors for that machine's manual. They are here.
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/support/Pages/operator-manuals.aspx
The other one is newer than your machine and is not 208/230.
Check that it one of the models mentioned on the first page of the manual.
BE WARNED, that you might have to do a reconnect on the power input depending on what it used to be run on.
If the shop it came from was running it on 208, then you have to swap a wire at the switch to go to 230.
It tells how in the owner's manual.
Plus, its a standard two wire plus ground setup, so you can change the plug easily according to the schematic at the last of the manual.
Note though, it can draw up to 57 amps, so check the size of your service before you hook it up.
It can be run on less, just make sure the breaker is sized for the wire in the wall so you don't have a fire, and keep it on the lower settings.
Finally got a chance to look at the label. So if I'm reading this correctly. It looks like single phase set up correct?
Which would mean if only need a new plug?
Finally got a chance to look at the label. So if I'm reading this correctly. It looks like single phase set up correct?
Which would mean if only need a new plug?
Yep, it's a single phase 220v unit.
Be sure and download and read the owner's manual I linked to before you hook it up. Its a dual voltage machine, and must be changed to match your voltage. The manual shows how to do it. Just swap a couple of wires.
Depending on where it was last used, it might be set for your voltage already, but be sure and check.
No sense in taking a chance of damaging something.
Depending on where it was last used, it might be set for your voltage already, but be sure and check.
No sense in taking a chance of damaging something.
Nice!Yep, it's a single phase 220v unit.
Actually downloaded it the day you sent it. It's even printed sitting on top of the unit.
Now I have to decide if I want to keep it to try and learn tig with. Or sell it to fund building my Dana 60 parts.
Thanks for all the help guys. Just out of curiosity, anyone know without looking where I could buy that plug at?
You can get the plug at any hardware store.
