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Helping a buddy look at a 2nd gen Bronco...

Won't the state give any allowance for cars or trucks that won't meet emissions?
I think here in Texas, you can meet with an
mediator, and there is a limit to how much you have to spend on repairs... but I haven't confirmed anything.
 
usually States won't give allowances for modified vehicles. If the equipment is all there, but not functioning properly, and the parts are obsolete and unavailable or $$$$ you can get an exemption. I was only successful 1x, that was a German Opel that had an aftermarket carburetor.
 
Here in California the seller is responsible for the smog and there is no deadline. I can buy a vehicle and a month later register it and if it doesn't pass smog it is still on the seller.
Also you can change engines but same size or bigger so a 460 is acceptable.
State will allow you to go another 2 years without passing smog after spending $500 in repairs not counting the smog fee but only repairing defective parts not missing parts.
 
Registration in a non emissions county would be easier. Or register in South Dakota like @ktmoutfront did on his rides when he was here. No emissions and no value based tax bs like Colorado has.
 
@muddybuddy before going down to look at it, we voiced concern to the seller about emissions and we sent him the FAQ page that I linked up above. The seller agreed beforehand to take it back if it failed. He was a real nice guy, wished us good luck and all that and said he was just gonna keep my buddy's money in a safe until he heard back on what happened.

A general update is that my friend is indeed going to go for registration in a non-emissions county. He's going to try getting a PO Box in Summit County and use that to register the Bronco. He went to a slightly seedy emissions shop yesterday and the tech suggested that approach. I am crossing my fingers for him. In all honesty I would have just bailed and gotten my money back, but he really likes this thing and wants to keep it. He's a braver man than I.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the exemption laws here in CO. If you spend $715 on repairs then you can apply for a waiver. He thinks the PO Box route is cheaper, and he gets a little bonus of keeping the emissions crap off his truck.
 
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shima said:
@muddybuddy before going down to look at it, we voiced concern to the seller about emissions and we sent him the FAQ page that I linked up above. The seller agreed beforehand to take it back if it failed. He was a real nice guy, wished us good luck and all that and said he was just gonna keep my buddy's money in a safe until he heard back on what happened.

A general update is that my friend is indeed going to go for registration in a non-emissions county. He's going to try getting a PO Box in Summit County and use that to register the Bronco. He went to a slightly seedy emissions shop yesterday and the tech suggested that approach. I am crossing my fingers for him. In all honesty I would have just bailed and gotten my money back, but he really likes this thing and wants to keep it. He's a braver man than I.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the exemption laws here in CO. If you spend $715 on repairs then you can apply for a waiver. He thinks the PO Box route is cheaper, and he gets a little bonus of keeping the emissions crap off his truck.
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PO Box costs about $120.
 
mrk5 said:
What I don't understand is why it matters what equipment is present. If the tailpipe emissions are within regulations, then who cares how it's getting it done.
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I agree 100%. That being said, I double-checked the failure report that he sent to me, and the Bronco failed the sniffer too. But chances are he could slap on cats, completely skip the air pump, and it would pass the sniffer. But they would still fail him because the air pump was missing.
 
For something as vintage as a 2nd gen Bronco why give up on it when you can buy the necessary parts to get it legal? Cat converter and pipes can't be too much. I just replaced one on my '98 Jimmy and it was $125. Sometimes old and cool rigs such as this Bronco are worth keeping and fixing to get it legal in order to enjoy it.
 
Fordum said:
Probably too late now, especially since the posting has been deleted. Either your friend bought it, or you showed him so much wrong he decided to not try to sell it. But, 1979 was the last year for "good" F150s. Not sure about Broncos. In '79, 150s had cast iron or heavy steel radius arms, C6 transmissions, NP205 transfer cases, Ford 9inch rear ends, and were many times tougher than the 1980 150s.
When I replaced my '79 150 in 1989, I had to go with a 250 to get the equivalent truck.
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While I agree with your comment about the '79 having the good parts it's biggest failure is the D44. Of all the F150's I've owned, messed with, built, etc., I've found the best D44 is the '77 year.
 
thatK30guy said:
For something as vintage as a 2nd gen Bronco why give up on it when you can buy the necessary parts to get it legal? Cat converter and pipes can't be too much. I just replaced one on my '98 Jimmy and it was $125. Sometimes old and cool rigs such as this Bronco are worth keeping and fixing to get it legal in order to enjoy it.
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He's doing his best to keep it. We're going to try for the PO Box approach so that it can be registered without adding the emissions equipment. But if that fails, I am certain that he will add whatever it takes to get it to pass Denver's emissions.
 
Only downfall to a po box in a non emissions county is if our liberal state government pushes to follow California emissions bullshit and makes it state wide vs just the front range counties.

Forgot to mention that. It's possible to happen. In which case I'll have to put cats on two of my rides where they are lacking.
 
ZooMad75 said:
Only downfall to a po box in a non emissions county is if our liberal state government pushes to follow California emissions bullshit and makes it state wide vs just the front range counties.
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My biggest fear. Especially after all the reports this week that he's withdrawn the request for the Ozone extension.
 
Here in Nevada if a vehicle is 25-years or older yo can get a ""classic vehicle" registration that does not require a smog check. You would figure every state would have such an option for vehicles that are too old to find parts for.
 
mrk5 said:
My biggest fear. Especially after all the reports this week that he's withdrawn the request for the Ozone extension.
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Makes me wish I kept the Vin tag from my 75. Still have the title. Could've done a little swapping to the 91.
 
1-ton said:
Here in Nevada if a vehicle is 25-years or older yo can get a ""classic vehicle" registration that does not require a smog check. You would figure every state would have such an option for vehicles that are too old to find parts for.
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We have that in Colorado, we're afraid our governor is going to take it away and retroactively make everyone pass (probably even stricter) emissions. He's talked about wanting to do it.
 
Texas is 2-24 years old for emissions test...
after 24 years they don't even raise the hood.
No emissions for diesels either...

heck, I used to drive my blown BBC 79 K5
into the inspection place, and all they did was a simple safety check... :waytogo:

Some county's just outside of the major cities would let you roll in and pass, even if you resided in a county that had to test... don't ask - don't tell I guess !!
 
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