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How's this for a shackle angle?

zcarczar

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Well?
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Looks like you should take the ORD flip brackets and swap sides with them, that'll open up your angle to right about where it should be, looks too closed.
 
Would be good for droop, but I don't know how it would be for compression. Seems a little extreme, but I'm not an expert in any way. I would like to know what the universal "best" angle one would go for would be though.
 
i'd drive it as is. see if they make contact or handle funny. if its bad, then swap sides.
 
I'd leave it. It looks like your springs are almost flat the way it is (I could be wrong) so I don't think compression will be affected very much. Gonna droop like mad though.
 
Looks just like mine. I kinda wondered about this myself. I've drove it like this for the last 6 months however and it rides just fine. I've even hauled some pretty heavy loads as i was remodaling my upstairs. No problems at all.
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I stand corrected. I was under the impression that the optimal shackle angle was with the shackle as close to 90* to the spring end as possible. My shackle angle, which I thought was too closed is looking better now. :waytogo:
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Optimum anlge is closer too 45*. Its one of the things I don't like about the ORD flip, I think it could really do more for shackle angle.

Well it depends on springs and shackle length. There used to be a calculation but I think it got lost when Echobit went under.
 
Mofulgly13 where did you get those beefy shackles!?? Build or buy? Those are NICE! I want some!

My ORD shackle flip put my angle pretty close to 90 degrees, my rig's flex in the rear is sweet, front not so good even though I have the ORD shackles up there, greasable bushings and TuffCountry ezrides.
 
ORD shackles only hurt front shackle angle. My shackle angle on the K5 was horrible with ORDs and BDS springs.

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I built those shackles myself. They are 3/8 bar and have an offset built into them so I could run ford 57" long 3" wide springs. I'm still trying to get the K5 back together so I don't know how it will ride, but I am hoping for the best. It was actually pretty easy to make them after I had all the angles and measurements worked out. I used a porta-band, a 1/2" drill motor and my welder, and voila! I also used my lathe to drill the larger holes where the bushing sleeve ties the top together, but that's just 'cause I dont have a drill press. Apart for paying for material, the only cash I put out was to have them powdercoated.
 
zcarczar said:

Umm, there is something weird looking about that flip. At least, it looks much shorter, vertically, than my 4".

Is that the 2.5" flip, or is yours modified from original ORD somehow?

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I was just showing off my bitchin shackle angle, I had no plans of changing it. I set it up when I did the suspension to be just like that.

yeah thats a 2.5 flip, I still to beef these shackles up a big though before I run them.
 
my shackle angle is pretty close to yours, wait till to you see how much droop you'll have. :D you are gonna need a limiting strap. i need to send my rear c.v shaft back to tom woods to get some more flex. i am running shackles like yours, been running them for a couple of years with no problems.
 
I think my shackle angle is even steeper than that with the 57's. It rides great and flex's awesome. Last I checked I could get 45" under the rear tire...and that was with brutally stiff Rancho fronts.


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