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87 K5 Tbi with serpentine system from 95 c1500 4.3 motor.

So but new alternator on it when did swap and it lasted maybe year.

Noticed when put any window down gauge on dash drops.

Should I be looking for something more here besides adding relays?

Optima battery new starter 0 gauge ground and 0 gauge from starter to battery and 4 gauge from alt to battery.

Never seen one drop like my K5 does.

Alt came from CarQuest.
 
87 K5 Tbi with serpentine system from 95 c1500 4.3 motor.

So but new alternator on it when did swap and it lasted maybe year.

Noticed when put any window down gauge on dash drops.

Should I be looking for something more here besides adding relays?

Optima battery new starter 0 gauge ground and 0 gauge from starter to battery and 4 gauge from alt to battery.

Never seen one drop like my K5 does.

Alt came from CarQuest.
How about your engine block to chassis ground?
Have you tried a voltage drop test?
What is the voltage at the battery while off, cranking, at idle, while operating accessories such as windows, blower fan etc.
 
Did not check voltage while off running other day was 13.0 volts when loaded dropped down to around 10 volts.

I can just put any window down and watch meter drop
 
This is not a problem with the windows, but with the ground connection or tie-in to the fuse block. Grab your voltmeter and check at the battery. Voltage won't be dropping much there. Then measure from B+ and B- to the points downstream that should be the at the same potential. You'll find a connection somewhere that needs cleaning or is broken.
 
Better yet, do like Blue said, and check the actual battery voltage when you see the drop. If something is sucking down a charged Optima that low, even those 0 gauge cables should be getting warm. So I doubt you will see a drop there.
But, instead of doing a voltage drop test, you need to do a voltage drop test........
I know that does not make any sense, but I am coming off the Flu and my brain is slow.
Measuring from positive to negative at different points will show a problem, but then you have to figure out which side its on.
Technically that would be a low voltage test. Aha! figured it out! You want to do a voltage drop test instead of a low voltage test.

OK, once you are sure the battery is holding its own, you need to do a voltage drop test. That test shows where the problem is. It works off the fact that two points in a circuit that should have pretty much zero resistance will have the same voltage. I usually do it with the engine off and all loads on.
I turn the engine off, turn on all the lights, fan on high, anything that can load the system.
Then you set the voltmeter on a low scale, such as 2 volts and start measuring between connected points looking for a voltage difference.
For instance, with a top post battery, measure from the post its self to the clamp. Since they are supposed to be a nice clean connection, there should not be any voltage difference. A dirty or corroded connection will show a voltage difference because some voltage is lost in the resistance as heat.

I start at the battery post, and leave the probe attached there and work my way down the line.
Positive post to positive clamp, then post to the wire inside the insulation in case the wire connection inside the clamp is bad. Then post to what ever the wire hooks to. When you see a volt or two loss, or more, that is usually the problem.
Of course do the negative side too. In this case, you might want to start on that side.

If its affecting the charging circuit too, you may have to do the checks with the engine running. For instance checking from the negative post to the housing of the alternator and from the positive post to the output stud on the alternator.
But it should not be the alternator its self, because that optima should not let the volts drop to 10.
Having said that, I actually had an Optima go bad on my the other day. First one ever. Less than 6 months old, no hard knocks or damage, just suddenly started getting sluggish about cranking. Battery would charge right up, but would drop voltage while cranking.
Took it back, they gave me a brand new one, no questions, no charge. I just saw that when I typed it...........
I knew the owner of that shop well, and he told me that he had seen a couple come back recently, but only one or two. Probably a factory defect.
But not any since.
Just notices K5wrench suggested the voltage drop first, oh well, I just elaborated on his idea.......
 
I've got two group 31 semi batteries in my k5 with mostly all stock electrical system. My gauge drops also when I run windows and they are slow. I'm sure it's just a combo of many small voltage drops throughout the entire electrical system.
 
It is normal for the dash voltmeter to drop quite a bit when you press one of the window buttons (for fun, hit all 4 at once in a Suburban/Crew!). The under dash fuse block does not have a real "stiff" connection to the battery. It can probably be improved by cleaning ground connections and stuff, but you'll always see the gauge drop some. I posted up voltage drop numbers from mine in the relay mod thread: https://ck5.com/forums/threads/power-window-idea-it-works.206618/page-3#post-2465482

Here's the numbers for convenience.
Driver Side:
Stock setup:
-Drop from Vbatt to switch = 1.8V
-Drop through switch = 0.5V
-Open/close time (engine off): 7s

With relays:
-Drop from Vbatt to relays = 0.3V
-Drop through relay = 0.1V
-Open/close time (engine off): 5s

Passenger side:
Stock setup:
-Drop from Vbatt to switch = 1.5V
-Drop through switch = 1.5V (yes, the motor is only getting about 9V)
-Open/close time (engine off): 7.2s up, 6.2s down

With relays:
-Drop from Vbatt to relays = 0.3V
-Drop through relay and motor wire = 0.2V
-Open/close time (engine off): 4.2s up, 3.7s down
So that was 63% more power to the motor, but it also made the gauge stop moving when I hit the window buttons. Mostly because the power comes from the underhood electrical center and not the underdash one. The underdash one only powers the relay coils.
 
Some of the main wiring harness in GM's charging circuit get gangrene after 10+ years...one truck I had used to have the lights dim and wipers slow down at idle at night--one day a fusible link decided to fry,and when I went to replace it,I found the thick red wire it protected was corroded badly,even after I cut it back a good foot..
I replaced the whole wire with 10 gauge instead of 12,ran the new wire right to the battery ,instead of at the starter,and the dimming headlights and slow wiper action went away...
I imagine every wire in the truck had some corrosion after 25+ years..
Bad grounds are also common on older vehicles,especially in the rust belt..
 
I've got two group 31 semi batteries in my k5 with mostly all stock electrical system. My gauge drops also when I run windows and they are slow. I'm sure it's just a combo of many small voltage drops throughout the entire electrical system.
Right. The battery voltage is fine, but the gauge isn't measuring the battery voltage. It measures the under-dash fuse block voltage.
 

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