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Hydro assist....got a question..or 2

K5MONSTERCHEV

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So as far as hydro assist...hows the rock ram from AGR? I found a used one over on pirate pretty close to me. It seemes to be in good condition (from the pics) my box is leaking and I had thought about hydro assist when Ryan brought it up back when I had my death wobble problem in Nov. Is this a good ram? Powerful enough? I never payed much attention to hydro assist, because I never needed it, or had money, but now.... Thanks guys.
 
After seeing what hydro does on my buddies 72 that had some SERIOUS death wobble... I am a firm believer. I have it on my K5, but haven't gotten to test it out yet because I blew up the motor the same day I put the hydro on...:crazy: :crazy:
 
I keep hearing hydro assist but i don't know what the hell it is.... steering stabilizers or something that gives you stronger steering?
 
It is a hydraulic ram that gets pressure from your P/S pump. When you turn left, the ram pushes the tierod that way, etc...
 
I have the agr rock ram system on my burb & it does fine. It got rid of the death wobble. It dosen't have any problems steering the 44" boggers:D
 
I just got my cylinder from Northern tool today. Paid $69 for it. Will be getting the hoses made monday after work. They will be $26. I bought an end cap for the steering box from EMS Offroad
http://www.emsoffroad.com/hydroassist.htm

I didn't get the top cap. Just gonna tap that myself and add some extra support around the hole. I'll have about $150 in my whole system. Others have done it for $100 or so. OR, you can pay well over $300 for a system. Depends on your wallet:crazy:
 
From the few people I do know who have ran the AGR stuff, tehy werent impressed.

http://rockstomper.com/catalog/steering/ramassist.htm $220



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Thanks guys. The guys selling the whole setup, box and all, and my box is pissing oil now. A remanned one is 210, I can get the whole setup for 350, and I already have brackets on my hi steer with my stabilizer, so itll be a snap to throw on.


As far as the comment abouit not being impressed with the AGR, why so?
 
Are you gettin just the ram or the whole kit with the gear box and pump?

One guy I know who is runnin it started with just the ram and a reman box and stock pump then later on added a agr box and agr pump and didnt notice any significant difference as far as flow and pressure was concerned. If its a good deal, go for it!

Honestly, I have no 1st hand, I've never had there kit on any rig Ive owned but I would definately consider it if I had the money! Ive helped put one on and its a beefy kit, definately good stuff. I'd rock it fo sho. But, I'll be rockin some poor mans home brew assist :grin:
 
I've got $86 invested in my hydro ram assist and I paid $100 for the box, already tapped. It's for off road use only, but for the price, it was worth every penny. I only wish I had done it sooner.
 
1.5" Rams are generally considered pretty streetable.
2.0" Rams are generally too SLOW reacting for a street-driven truck.

Something else to keep in mind. I've got a 1.5" on mine and it's nice on the street. I wouldn't say it's a "magic bullet" for resolving death wobble (I can still induce DW if I try) but it certainly calms it way down.


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Greg72 said:
I wouldn't say it's a "magic bullet" for resolving death wobble (I can still induce DW if I try) but it certainly calms it way down.
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Bingo. My k5 is undrivable without the hydro ram. With the ram on, it will absorb most of the deathwobble, and if it does start the DW vibe, i only have to tap the brakes to get it to stop instead of slamming on the brakes and pulling over to a complete stop.
I have the WTO setup, didn't even mod my PS pump and it makes a hell of a difference. I also made a 3" spacer and installed it inside the ram to limit it from 8" down to 5" of throw perfect for HI-Steer. (thanks esteban for that tip!)
Ive been through about 5 leaky rams, and finally this last time when the seal started pissing, i rebuilt it myself with some $0.99 seals from home depot, and i haven't seen a drop outta the ram in a month. :grin: :grin:
I got a spare ram and lines just in case i break when i'm out wheeling, i'll be able to put a new ram on and still drive home safely.
On the trail and In the rocks, the hydro ram is night and day difference.
 
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Bore size of the ram cylinder and seal.
 
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