Read on here somewhere that hydro assist high steer puts more stress on steering than hdro assist crossover. Anyone have any problems going high steer. Want to do assist but want it to be strong, with no weak link. For a d60 not yet installed.
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hydro assist high steer-any problems?
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High steer and assist here. Only problem so far is there is just no room for everything. I am not easy on my stuff either
Good point, building it for rocks and abuse. Would like to go full hydro but I don.t have anyway to trailer my rig, not my daily driver, so I am really considering it, but don.t know what kind of fine I.ll get if I get caught. Can.t imagine alotof cops know the difference.
i hear it can blow the top of the stock knuckles apart. thats why i upgraded to reid/dedenbear knuckles. and thay are much more beefy than stock knuckles.
you can also plate the stock knuckles with the kit kirt @diy4x makes. but you dont get the 5th stud on top. as someguys i have read break studs if only 4 ver the 5 that aftermarket gives.
things not done yet tho.
you can also plate the stock knuckles with the kit kirt @diy4x makes. but you dont get the 5th stud on top. as someguys i have read break studs if only 4 ver the 5 that aftermarket gives.
things not done yet tho.
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PANCAKE
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I have assist crossover high steer with Poison Spider (when they were in Colorado) steering arms. They only have the 4 mounting holes and I have the stock Chevy Dana 60 knuckles. No problems with 42" tires and I am fairly hard on it
Tie your steering arms into your stock knuckle tierod hole.
High steer and hydro assist can be hard on stock knuckles and for hard use I'd plan on something better than stock.
There are kits out there to plate the stock knuckles but we don't go that route, be aware (which apparently many people don't know) the factory knuckles are cast iron and not cast steel, they don't weld easily.
Doesn't do much, there is tons of leverage on that bolt. There are some options there with full hydro and making the attachment in between the two but that's lower clearance and still not ideal, putting the bolt in pure shear across a span rather than being able to use bolt torque/friction to carry the load.
Basically tying into the lower tie rod hole doesn't hurt but it doesn't help much.
There are kits out there to plate the stock knuckles but we don't go that route, be aware (which apparently many people don't know) the factory knuckles are cast iron and not cast steel, they don't weld easily.
Doesn't do much, there is tons of leverage on that bolt. There are some options there with full hydro and making the attachment in between the two but that's lower clearance and still not ideal, putting the bolt in pure shear across a span rather than being able to use bolt torque/friction to carry the load.
Basically tying into the lower tie rod hole doesn't hurt but it doesn't help much.
When I go to full hydro I will either upgrade my knuckles or go with something different as far as mounting goes.
Like I said going on 3 years with this steering setup, if the cash is there then definitely upgrade the knuckles, having hydro assist is way more important than not in my book, and in our rocks everyone who has a low hanging tie rod (stock location on Dana axles) is sure happy to see the trail, you can tell cause their tie rod is always smiling.
I think hydro assist is important enough to have that if you are worried about the stock knuckles coming apart, then just do crossover and build a skidplate or something off the axle.
Like I said going on 3 years with this steering setup, if the cash is there then definitely upgrade the knuckles, having hydro assist is way more important than not in my book, and in our rocks everyone who has a low hanging tie rod (stock location on Dana axles) is sure happy to see the trail, you can tell cause their tie rod is always smiling.
I think hydro assist is important enough to have that if you are worried about the stock knuckles coming apart, then just do crossover and build a skidplate or something off the axle.
*ORD hat off*
I completely agree about the importance of hydro assist, one of the most worthwhile mods I've done.
I've been on 42's and on hard stuff in the rocks for ~5 years now and my 1.5" .375" wall tie rod is still holding strong. The truck has been completely resting on the tie rod and it's been shoved into rocks so that it's pressed against the cover, it's still going good, with a gentle bend that's barely visible (just turned the tie rod ends out a tiny bit more
). How my cylinder has survived I don't know, luck more than anything because I don't take too many spots.High steer is awesome and obviously gains you the clearance, I'll likely have everything steered off of the top of the knuckle shortly.
See I tend to disagree with ya Chris. With the high steer on mine I have not broken a stud or had any problems with destroying the knuckle.
I will agree the strongest option is certainly a xover and low tie rod just build it stupid strong like Chris did. None of this wussy .250 thick stuff.
But I have not had the problems everyone told me I would have with my setup. Also on 42s and I am pretty sure my rig is heavier than Chris's rig. Although I am working on that.
If you are worried about it either buy knuckles or go xover and brutally strong tie rod.
Either way you go hydro assist is very important.
few pics of stock to reid knuckle
and 10 lbs more over stock .
posted for a better selection of info. so anyone can make a good informed choice.
and 10 lbs more over stock .
posted for a better selection of info. so anyone can make a good informed choice.
