beater_k20
Banned
also, since the transaction was made without a bill of sale, he has no proof that that is his engine. however you have no proof that it isnt. but isnt posession 9/10 of the law? 
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I need help buyer seller issue with a friend
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ProJunkRacing
1/2 ton status
lol nice jeremy
If you do go talk with him, send him a letter that starts "this is to confirm our conversation...." detail the conversation and your understanding of the outcome. Send it certified RRR. This will be a great help when the stuff hits the fan. No matter how paraniod you are, you can never, never be paranoid enough when court may be in your immediate future.
ProJunkRacing
1/2 ton status
yeah thanks for all help guys keep it coming
GEORGIA GABE
1/2 ton status
ok, just look at the poll
nuf said
gabe
nuf said
gabe
Silver84k5
1/2 ton status
now go over there... come back and update us!!
on another note... how does the motor run?
on another note... how does the motor run?
gmcman7202
1/2 ton status
how old is the other kid? if hes under 18 there is some legal issues that will allow the law to say you have to pay for the motor. even if you asked if his father knew and all. otherwise i say keep the motor, for all you know he could just need money, and teling you his father want some cash for it. since he has already lied to ya.
Th fact is you DID pay for the motor! If he wants the motor back charge him for all the time and effort into getting it running, but also the materials(X hrs shoptime x 65 + materials). then charge him time to install/ remove the motor. (so 8hrs shop time just for that at 65 bucks an hour... get the picture?) Then charge him for the tires. Pro rate them though. so if they cost you 200 a pop new and they were at 75% tell him hee owes you 150 per tire. so see how quick this adds up? wirte up a bill (make it as accurate as possible) and send it to him. see how much he bothers you to get the motor back then
Really, you dont have to do anything. You made a deal in good faith, it was carried out and satisfied. You friend came in later and offered a deal to trade back that you rejected. You're done.
If the Dad wants to recover, he has to go after his son, not you. He can take you to court but you did everything correct and I dont see how a judge would take it very seriously.
I'm talking out of experience. I've been on both ends of the stick in these situations and the third party always kept the items when the third party did the deal in good faith.
I wouldnt give it back. I would also dump the friend, I mean, what kind of person steals from his own dad? Would he have problems stealing from you next?
If the Dad wants to recover, he has to go after his son, not you. He can take you to court but you did everything correct and I dont see how a judge would take it very seriously.
I'm talking out of experience. I've been on both ends of the stick in these situations and the third party always kept the items when the third party did the deal in good faith.
I wouldnt give it back. I would also dump the friend, I mean, what kind of person steals from his own dad? Would he have problems stealing from you next?
Silver84k5
1/2 ton status
who voted for "give it back" lets here your side.
beater_k20
Banned
Silver84k5 said:
are you sure you really want to hear that? obviously, whoever it is has mashed potatoes for brains.
Leper
1/2 ton status
Please give me some more details. Did you pick the motor up or did he bring it to you? Was he there when you got it? Did he help you load it? Have you had it 6 months really? Is it in a running driving truck? How long have you been driving it?(with the motor)
If it were me..... I would tell the "friend" to have his dad call me. IF he calls, and I say IF, because it may be a total scam, say "yeah whatshisname told me you had a question about the motor" He replies "blah,blah,blah" You say..." he told me it was his motor, I gave him my good tires in trade. And that was 6+ months ago. End of story!!!
If he doesn't drop it then, you can always tell him "I have put "x" amount of money and "x" amount of time into that motor and put it in my truck and have been driving with it for "x" months. He has been wearing out the tires I traded him." But I don't know how it would go over.
I agree that if he demands it back, you should tell him the dollar amount you put into it. I agree you should tell the dad that its between the 2 of them. I dont agree with the put everything on paper ideas. It is fine if he sends something to you, but if you send him something that isn't worded perfectly, it could bite you in the a$$.
Wait for the dad to call. Tell him that it was a long time ago and that the motor has been rebuilt since then. I bet he drops it with just that. I wouldn't talk to the friend any more about it. Just wait for the dad.
BTW... If you receive something that is "stolen", you are just as guilty as the person who did the stealing. Keep the cops and the legal system out of it.
If it were me..... I would tell the "friend" to have his dad call me. IF he calls, and I say IF, because it may be a total scam, say "yeah whatshisname told me you had a question about the motor" He replies "blah,blah,blah" You say..." he told me it was his motor, I gave him my good tires in trade. And that was 6+ months ago. End of story!!!
If he doesn't drop it then, you can always tell him "I have put "x" amount of money and "x" amount of time into that motor and put it in my truck and have been driving with it for "x" months. He has been wearing out the tires I traded him." But I don't know how it would go over.
I agree that if he demands it back, you should tell him the dollar amount you put into it. I agree you should tell the dad that its between the 2 of them. I dont agree with the put everything on paper ideas. It is fine if he sends something to you, but if you send him something that isn't worded perfectly, it could bite you in the a$$.
Wait for the dad to call. Tell him that it was a long time ago and that the motor has been rebuilt since then. I bet he drops it with just that. I wouldn't talk to the friend any more about it. Just wait for the dad.
BTW... If you receive something that is "stolen", you are just as guilty as the person who did the stealing. Keep the cops and the legal system out of it.
ProJunkRacing
1/2 ton status
gmcman7202 said:
well i heard form a friend that some kid that wanted the motor before i got it said he woulda paid him $400 bucks for it rather than the tires so now he wants to be an indian giver so he might be buyin a $850 dollar set of tires lol but any how this kid will not tell me that and if he calls again i will answer and say i will call your dad and see what he wants to do seeing as his dad probley doen't even know and yes he is 19 i am 20
beater_k20
Banned
ProJunkRacing said:
screw that. if his dad wants it, let his dad call you.
ProJunkRacing
1/2 ton status
yeah that is what i figure if he calls me then maybe i will talk otherwise f him his dad don't know as far as i can see he is just a stroke
camiswelding
1/2 ton status
russ said it all... and very eloquently too...
use his advice
cam
use his advice
cam
78Suburban
1/2 ton status
the perfect solution
I kinda know how feuds can be, at lease here in the boondox.. so you need to make 3 small investments: locking gas cap, locking hood pins, box of 12 Ga. Shells
.... sit in the rocking chair on the front porch with the old side by side, and dare that rich snob to come get your motor 
you didn't hear this from me
,
James
I kinda know how feuds can be, at lease here in the boondox.. so you need to make 3 small investments: locking gas cap, locking hood pins, box of 12 Ga. Shells
.... sit in the rocking chair on the front porch with the old side by side, and dare that rich snob to come get your motor you didn't hear this from me
,James
TrcksR4ME
1/2 ton status
Sounds like you made a deal and there is nothing he can do about. A contract can be verbal, and there was consideration (tires traded for motor) for both parties. If you had never given him the tires then they would have a case, but changing his mind after the fact doesn't count. If the dad really is involved and wants it back the only way he can do it is to say it is stolen property, and his son would be the one guilty of that crime.
Jishory
1/2 ton status
def talk to the dad
ProJunkRacing
1/2 ton status
yeah i dont think i will hear anything about it again and if i do i will say well i am gonna talk to your dad and see what he says
