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If you live in Colorado don't use a 454 Vortec to tow...

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I don't see how you can compare how an engine pulls on foothills vs. a REAL mountain pass...you really can't.

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I realize that.....but my hopes are to make a trip out west with the Blazer sometime in the next couple of years and want to know what I will be getting in to while towing through the mountains.

Saying what the semi's do on this pass is a good example. Who else on this board has driven over the pass? What vehicle, were you towing, and what speeds could you pull it????
 
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Most of the Mountain passes are 11,000 feet or more and run 6 and 7% grades.
I have a Ford F 250 with 35" tires 4:10 gearing Auto trans and a 460 with headers and gutted cat. I am usually at around 25 to 30 miles an hour on these passes with a trailer weighing 6500# with buggy on it. I also have around 1000# of other stuff with me. Oh and my truck weighs over 7200# empty! So thats 14,700# plus with a 460.
The passes aren't that bad to pull you just have to remember to back out of it and take some time.
 
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I don't see how you can compare how an engine pulls on foothills vs. a REAL mountain pass...you really can't.

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I realize that.....but my hopes are to make a trip out west with the Blazer sometime in the next couple of years and want to know what I will be getting in to while towing through the mountains.

Saying what the semi's do on this pass is a good example. Who else on this board has driven over the pass? What vehicle, were you towing, and what speeds could you pull it????

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i have been out on those passes, i have never towed any thing and i was driving just cars, but i can tell you this, they are not like driving in hills at all. One time when I was in college, I went out there to ski I had a old honda with 200+k and i had a friend driving behind me with the same car (87 Accord) mine was a stick and his was an Auto, it was all he could do to keep up with me and i think the most i was doing was 45 or so. A different time i was driving a mid size GM with a auto and it was a PAIN IN THE REAR come back down the mountains just before denver. + there is some place where the wind comes down a cannon and on a windy day it feels like you have 2 flat on one side you car can pull so hard. I am kind of shocked that Steve’s sub had that kind of problems towing but from what I recall I would not want to go much faster then 35 or so with a trailer in that area that he is talking about.
 
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What gear is the diff?

Uhhhhhhh. My new trail rig will shave 3+ k off my towed load partly because of this exact issue. My truck on a 10k trailer is pushing 9K. Its a hell of a lot of weight especially in thin air. I doubt your much lighter. My truck has no problem with the new rig. I have already pull that weight a few times but I agree...my next rig will be a Diesel. Proably be a SDF25 Crew short 4x4 with the 7.3 PSD. My buddy gets nearly 21 empty and pulling his 39ft 5th toy hauler camper with 4 ATVs in it going from here to Alaska he was hitting 15mpg. I still need to drive the Dodges. The back seat doesn't look nearly as well done as the F250 SD.

Now I do get Employee discount (moms retired Chrysler) so I could probaby get a new Dodge for what a 2-3 year of F250 will set me back. If they can get a decent back seat that will change my mind but a pair of uncomforatable kids on a 1400 mile trip makes everybody miserable. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
 
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Definitely get a 1 ton if you get a crew cab.

A 3/4 ton crewcab is not going to have much GVWR left once you factor in the weight of all that extra cab and interior. SRW is fine--but definitely get a 1 ton.
 
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I will most likely look for a quad cab Dodge Cummins manual /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif


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So are you going to sell the burb and join the dodge cummins club? /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
 
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As soon as I have 2,000 more active Memberships, sure. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
 
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As soon as I have 2,000 more active Memberships, sure. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

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the passes around here a hell on any truck that the doesnt have a turbo, my 1988 blazer 6.2 with j-code intake, 2 1/2 exhaust and 80% less restriction mufflers,also 3 inch pvcp pipe intake ran to the grill, usually ends up down around 40 to 50 mphs or so going up I-70 leaving denver, without a turbo you just bog down. I would be really interested in seeing how that new 6.5na swanger diesel would do up those passes.
 
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