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Innertubes, new tires, keep running 'em?

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So my 8 (or so) year old BFG AT KO's are apparently aging worse than I thought. Actually one of them is at least a year younger, but all appear to be similar.

They've got at least 75% of their tread left, but my drivers rear tire keeps losing 10 pounds of pressure or so while sitting for a week or two.

Got to looking, and sure enough, piece of metal through the side of one of the tread blocks. This is the obvious source of the "major" leakage. Used soapy water however, and noticed air leaking out of a small crack a fraction of an inch away, and another small crack with minuscule air leakage as well a bit from that one. Looking closely, there are small cracks in the tread area pretty much everywhere except the raised blocks themselves. Didn't check the other tires for leakage, but I suspect if they aren't, its just a matter of time. When I say small cracks, most aren't any larger (visibly anyways) than say, this "l" on my computer screen.

The sidewalls aren't dry rotted or anything, they look brand new for the most part. Nothing that seems to be bad from age. The truck was always stored in the shade, so UV damage is going to be minimal.

I looked at my dads tires (different brand) and even his newer ones on the front have similar cracks, probably worse, and the older rears on his truck are a hundred times worse than mine in regards to the cracks, but he's not losing air. His seem to be a bit more concentrated at the bottom of the tread blocks, while mine are not necessarily cracking just at the base of the blocks, but in between the blocks.

Is running tubes even an acceptable "fix"? I hate to spend $1000 on new tires if these can continue to be used some way, but I'm not going to kill someone just because new tires are expensive. I have recently started airing them down quite a bit, so they probably are flexing more than they used to the rare times they see off-road, but I figure if anything, that would lead to additional cracking.

Can't post photo's now, but can in a week or so, if that would help.
 
There was just a post about a guy looking for tubes for some 44"s.Got some negative feedback about doing it.A lot of guys around here run tubes on trailers and plow trucks for that reason but definitely check local laws. In the event of an accident it would suck to find out your insurance would not cover you or you were at fault due to the tubes.Sorry I couldn't be more help.
 
Yes, reading that thread it sounds like on radials it might be a bad idea? None of the other threads I saw mentioned that. I'm wondering what the reason is between the bias and radials with tubes?

Hoping that since the cracks are all in the tread area, that tubes wouldn't be a problem.

I suspect otherwise, but I hate to toss them with as much tread life as they have left on them, of course unless it's a safety issue. Tubes sound like a pain anyways, but $1000 is pretty painful too. :)

They are 33's by the way, if that matters.
 
They make tubes specifically designed for radial tires. The difference is radial tubes can handle more heat, which is caused because radials have more flex to them and thus cause more frictional heat build-up to a tube than a bias tire does.

If you verify that only that one tire is leaking at these cracks then I would suspect the main cause of the issue is you have been regularly running that tire at too low of pressure for awhile and it is starting to come apart (plies are seperating) because of the additional heat build-up it sees.
 
IMHO if there is a visible problem with a tire a tube is nothing more than a half assed attempt to "cover up" a problem. Like i said in the other post, if you are ever in an accident where your tire failed and it is caught that the tire had damage prior to the accident it won't turn out good for you. It is safer to replace the tire(s) and no chance of any ill side affects down the road.
 
Is this thing just never driven much? I can't imagine getting 8 years out of a tire. I'm lucky if I get 3 years, but I put 40-50k miles on them in those 3 years.

I do have another vehicle that never gets driven and I've started noticing it's tires look pretty bad (one is even flat now) and I know the tires are at least 4 years old.
 
Yes, it doesn't get driven much. 150 miles a week if it's lucky, but that's only in the past 6 months. Before that maybe 1,000-2,000/year.

Tire pressure is always at recommended, except offroad. Only tire that ever went low lost a valve stem (and got very hot), yet the tires all look to be the same in regards to cracking.

Tire wear is even, so I assume tire pressure isn't an issue...?
 
It's a sign.

You've been on here long enough - you know what to do. :laugh:
Big axles/big tires/doubler/cage/narrowed front and rear/armor/winch/trailer/diesel tow rig. Wasn't so hard now, was it? :D
 
LOL, yeah, I've been looking at 40's. Can I run them without any rubbing with 1" zero rates and no cutting? I suppose I need to find a Dana 60 now. haha

An excuse to get BFG MT KM2's methinks....
 
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