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Installing heads

yeol1

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I got a 79 k10 with a 350
I got my heads back from the machine shop and painted and ready to go back on.
I would like to hear any tips to make the whole process easier/ less of a headache and also things I should try and avoid.
Thanks
 
Don't try to save time by putting the spark plugs in before the exhaust manifolds or especially headers could, and usually does result In broken plugs... When u get to the intake toss out the rubber "end rails" just use rtv. Clean is the key clean it all and then Clean it again. That's all I've really got. straight forward job.
 
may not be common among the V8 crowd but back in my "fast & furious" days of tuner 4 cylinders, I seen numerous people smash 1/2 their electrical wires between head and block when putting head back on. so make sure there is nothing in the way.
 
Don't try to save time by putting the spark plugs in before the exhaust manifolds or especially headers
That never occurred to me cause it takes all of 10 min to put plugs in with everything hooked up.....but I'm sure its been done or else you wouldn't have warned me. Thank you
 
may not be common among the V8 crowd but back in my "fast & furious" days of tuner 4 cylinders, I seen numerous people smash 1/2 their electrical wires between head and block when putting head back on. so make sure there is nothing in the way.


Yup!...be VERY careful of that!..

Had a friend who is a good mechanic do a valve job on a Olds 307 back in the 90's,and his customer kept pestering him to get the car finished asap by calling him on the phone repeatedly..(worst thing you can do to your mechanic,BTW)..

He got it back together the same day he got the heads back from the machine shop,and rushed to do so..he was rather irritated at the customer,so he stayed late that night so they could come pick up the car around 6 pm,so they wouldn't be aggravating him the next day..their car has tying up his only lift bay,he wanted it gone,had a lot of other cars waiting to be fixed piking up outside..

Well,the next day the customer called--said "Hey,the car runs great--but the heat wont work!--can you look at it today and see whats wrong"?...
He reluctantly agreed,and had to push another car off the lift he had half apart to get their car inside..it was about 20 degrees out in december..

A quick inspection showed the blower worked fine,but was blowing ice cold..turned out the heater control valve's nylon vacuum line tubing had gotten pinched between the drivers side head and the block!..:doah:..the head gasket wasn't showing any signs of leakage--so he decided to take the wire cutters to it,and snipped it off cleanly on both sides where it was sticking out,and spliced it back together with some rubber vacuum hose..:whistle:..and he added a tube of Aluma-Seal to the radiator,just in case...every time that car pulled into his parking lot,his sphincter would pucker up--but they drove it three more years and it never needed anything more than oil changes and a muffler,much to his releif..

I have only done one valve job on an engine with it in the chassis..all I can say is if you have any back troubles at all I'd wear a brace while doing this job,mine ached for weeks after hoisting some 454 heads into the engine bay and bending over the engine for 2 days buttoning everything back up...

I learned how to adjust the valves on that 454 without running the engine on that job,my brother showed me how to turn the engine over to number 1 TDC and adjust certain valves,then turn it over I think 180 degrees,and set the rest of them,going by the procedure in the Motors Manual..

I was reluctant to put the valve covers on till I heard it run,but the engine fired right up and didn't tick at all,so I didn't have to remove them,to my surprise..adjusting the valves the usual way with it running and splattering oil everywhere is my least favorite job on a chevy engine..next to installing a timing cover or oil pan in the vehicle that is!..the suggestion to ditch those rubber end seals on the intake is a good one too,use RTV ,those things are nothing but greif 90% of the time,they'll leak or pop out later on ..

Only other thing I can add is to not use sealer on the head gaskets if they are Fel-Pro Perma-Tourque blue ones,other types like shim steel might need some though..and follow the torque sequence when tightening the bolts..head bolts are about the only ones I ever use a torque wrench on,those and main bearing cap bolts and rod bolts..clean the bolt hole threads good and the both threads before installing them--some bolts will need sealer on the threads,that pass thru the water passages in the block too,I use Permatex non hardening "bear tar" on them..
 
Thanks for the info.
I had a full valve job done on the heads so I will have to adjust the valves( something else I've never done). Of you have a link or any more info on the way you did that would be cool if not i'll use the search function.
I'm looking coward to being able to drive my truck in a regular basis again it seems like for the past 2 years its been one thing after another and being out of work didn't help, but after this it should be solid and have power I didn't know it had.
 
I also keep reading on using a tap to chase the threads? What are the thoughts on that. The local auto store does the loan a tool program so I can get the proper tool.
 
when i rebuild my engine, i tapped out all the holes in the block. Its not manditory but it is nice, especially with head bolts because they should have sealant on them when installed.

Edit: and fyi head bolts are 7/16 course (7/16-14) if i recall.
 
I also keep reading on using a tap to chase the threads? What are the thoughts on that. The local auto store does the loan a tool program so I can get the proper tool.

a tap is NOT the proper tool.. you want a thread chaser.. and yes, that helps achieve proper torque..
 
can you explain why a tap shouldnt be used?


Because a tap is intended to cut new threads. If you aren't very careful, you risk damaging the threads. A thread chaser is designed to clean debris out of the threads without tapping new ones. That being said, I have used a tap for cleaning threads, but for every job there is a correct tool...
 
Because a tap is intended to cut new threads. If you aren't very careful, you risk damaging the threads. A thread chaser is designed to clean debris out of the threads without tapping new ones. That being said, I have used a tap for cleaning threads, but for every job there is a correct tool...

i just dont see how it can cut new threads, it was originally tapped with a tap, so unless you cross thread it, it will be just cleaning the same threads the original tap cut. Unless you are using an oversized tap. i just never understood why people say dont use them, thats all ive ever used and ive never had a problem.
 
it cut's the sidewalls of the thread.. not actual new threads, but it damages, enlarges, the existing threads... which obviously can cause it to be a looser engagement... next time you use one, look at the thread after and notice how one sidewall will be shiny from the cutter riding on it..

is it gonna be some automatic fail? of course not.. I used to do it all the time when I was young before I knew about the proper tool..... done a few times, especially roughly with some grime in the holes and incorrectly torqued? sure, it could aid in loosening up accidently...
 
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Question-Is the water jacket holes supposed to be the same size? The ones in the gaskets I have are very small compared to the ones in the heads and block. Everything else on the gaskets lines up.
 
regarding your question. No they shouldnt be the same size, the headgasket holes are usually smaller.
 
Thanks for all the info. We got the heads put on by 2AM last night. Tonight we are going to start adjusting valves.
If anyone has any tips or tricks on that process I would love to hear it. I really enjoy having all this information before doing something it makes the job easier and I normally have a better out come.
Thanks alot!
 

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