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Intellitronix Digital Gauges Review/Rant/Tips

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I thought I'd post about my experience installing the BG6004 Digital Gauge Kit from Intellitronix to see if I can save some poor soul a portion of the frustration I dealt with installing these in my 76 K5.

TL/DR: This kit is very much a kit. I think it's a decent value considering the hardware included, but the instructions are next to worthless and significant modification and cutting are required. I've got about 10 hours in this swap probably so far (although I'm a bit OCD, so someone less detail oriented might have an easier time). I believe this kit was designed for an 80s rig with a plastic instrument bezel, and although it is advertised as a 73-87 kit, the metal bezel in my cluster was a pain to trim to fit this kit. If you want a bolt in solution, pay up for dakota digitals or something.

Background:
I went to school for electronics engineering, and while I don't do that for a day job, I still enjoy it as a hobby. I started making my own gauges with x27 steppers to replace the mechanical gauges in my 76, but after seeing this kit for $400, I realized this was just another project keeping me from finishing the truck and I should just pay up and be done.

The first problem I encountered with the installation was actually fitting the boards in the housing. I had to dremel away a fair bit of plastic just to get the boards to sit in place flush. Next, I noticed there was no way the metal reflective bezel would fit over the boards. Although trimming being required was called out in the instructions, the video linked on their site was for an 80s rig with a plastic bezel, and all they trimmed was the holes for the small gauges with a razor blade. I had to remove probably a good 40% of the metal bezel with sheet metal shears and a dremel to get it to sit flush with the gauges. Also, I had to make my own standoffs for the top two gauges (about 18mm tall) out of some nylon standoffs I had lying around. Otherwise, the gauges would sit lower and appear smaller/dimmer/farther away than the bottom gauges (again, OCD).
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The next issue I encountered was the generic documentation. My board didn't match what was described in the instructions, as it appears to be generic instructions for multiple kits (things like "If you have a red wire or a pink wire, those are ignition hot. If you have both, pink is ignition and red is 12v constant. If in doubt, the board is marked with what each wire is.") My board had no markings, and so I connected the red wire to fused 12v constant resulting in the brake warning light always being on (due to a short to ground in my brake warning connection). After following the traces on the board, the only purpose for that wire is for the brake warning and check engine LEDs, which seems strange to put on 12v constant to me. I can't think of a reason either of those should be on when the ignition is off (and it's a carbureted 400sbc), so I left that wire disconnected.

A lot of the guides use Weatherpack connectors, but that seemed overkill to me since it's interior, so I used a Molex 18pin Mini-Fit Jr connector
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The next issue I had was with the turn signals. When the parking lights are on, the turn signal indicators are always on, and turn off with the turn signal. This is due to the way the front side-marker lights are wired. They only have 2 wires, neither of which are ground. A lightbulb only lights when electricity is flowing through it regardless of direction, so their solution was wire parking lights to one side and turn signal to the other. So if the parking lights are off, it blinks on. If the parking lights are on, it blinks off (because the electrons from the turn signals cancel out the flow from the parking lights). Problem is the parking lights are always back feeding the turn signals with a little bit of electricity (not a big deal with bulbs, but enough to turn on LEDs). To solve this, I made some simple little dimmer modules out of some diodes and resistors to make them function like motorcycle DRLs (get brighter when turn signal blinks instead of turning off) and stop the back feeding. I feel like this should've been called out in the instructions as I can't be the only one who would be driven crazy by the indicators behaving like that.

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Overall I'm pretty happy with the result. I still need to replace the oil pressure sending unit and water temp sensor with the ones included in the kit. I'll post more pictures when I finish cleaning up and painting the dash.
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Watching because I have bought a couple stand alone gauges from them which were fine, but no experience past that.
 
Way too bright for me....
 
I thought I'd post about my experience installing the BG6004 Digital Gauge Kit from Intellitronix to see if I can save some poor soul a portion of the frustration I dealt with installing these in my 76 K5.

TL/DR: This kit is very much a kit. I think it's a decent value considering the hardware included, but the instructions are next to worthless and significant modification and cutting are required. I've got about 10 hours in this swap probably so far (although I'm a bit OCD, so someone less detail oriented might have an easier time). I believe this kit was designed for an 80s rig with a plastic instrument bezel, and although it is advertised as a 73-87 kit, the metal bezel in my cluster was a pain to trim to fit this kit. If you want a bolt in solution, pay up for dakota digitals or something.

Background:
I went to school for electronics engineering, and while I don't do that for a day job, I still enjoy it as a hobby. I started making my own gauges with x27 steppers to replace the mechanical gauges in my 76, but after seeing this kit for $400, I realized this was just another project keeping me from finishing the truck and I should just pay up and be done.

The first problem I encountered with the installation was actually fitting the boards in the housing. I had to dremel away a fair bit of plastic just to get the boards to sit in place flush. Next, I noticed there was no way the metal reflective bezel would fit over the boards. Although trimming being required was called out in the instructions, the video linked on their site was for an 80s rig with a plastic bezel, and all they trimmed was the holes for the small gauges with a razor blade. I had to remove probably a good 40% of the metal bezel with sheet metal shears and a dremel to get it to sit flush with the gauges. Also, I had to make my own standoffs for the top two gauges (about 18mm tall) out of some nylon standoffs I had lying around. Otherwise, the gauges would sit lower and appear smaller/dimmer/farther away than the bottom gauges (again, OCD).
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The next issue I encountered was the generic documentation. My board didn't match what was described in the instructions, as it appears to be generic instructions for multiple kits (things like "If you have a red wire or a pink wire, those are ignition hot. If you have both, pink is ignition and red is 12v constant. If in doubt, the board is marked with what each wire is.") My board had no markings, and so I connected the red wire to fused 12v constant resulting in the brake warning light always being on (due to a short to ground in my brake warning connection). After following the traces on the board, the only purpose for that wire is for the brake warning and check engine LEDs, which seems strange to put on 12v constant to me. I can't think of a reason either of those should be on when the ignition is off (and it's a carbureted 400sbc), so I left that wire disconnected.

A lot of the guides use Weatherpack connectors, but that seemed overkill to me since it's interior, so I used a Molex 18pin Mini-Fit Jr connector
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The next issue I had was with the turn signals. When the parking lights are on, the turn signal indicators are always on, and turn off with the turn signal. This is due to the way the front side-marker lights are wired. They only have 2 wires, neither of which are ground. A lightbulb only lights when electricity is flowing through it regardless of direction, so their solution was wire parking lights to one side and turn signal to the other. So if the parking lights are off, it blinks on. If the parking lights are on, it blinks off (because the electrons from the turn signals cancel out the flow from the parking lights). Problem is the parking lights are always back feeding the turn signals with a little bit of electricity (not a big deal with bulbs, but enough to turn on LEDs). To solve this, I made some simple little dimmer modules out of some diodes and resistors to make them function like motorcycle DRLs (get brighter when turn signal blinks instead of turning off) and stop the back feeding. I feel like this should've been called out in the instructions as I can't be the only one who would be driven crazy by the indicators behaving like that.

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Overall I'm pretty happy with the result. I still need to replace the oil pressure sending unit and water temp sensor with the ones included in the kit. I'll post more pictures when I finish cleaning up and painting the dash.
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Right on man. Electrical engineering is a hobby of mine but I never went to college for it. I was just looking at this dash kit earlier today trying to see if someone had figured out the problems with it. From the reviews I have read they say the dash kit dies after about a year.

Are the electrical components rated for the voltage? Capacitors and resistors? Are they all surface mount any through hole leaded? The reason I ask this is because I don’t have tools for surface mount component removal and solder.

Do you happen to have a schematic of it? I’d love to look it over and try to figure out why these things go dead after a year.
 
Right on man. Electrical engineering is a hobby of mine but I never went to college for it. I was just looking at this dash kit earlier today trying to see if someone had figured out the problems with it. From the reviews I have read they say the dash kit dies after about a year.

Are the electrical components rated for the voltage? Capacitors and resistors? Are they all surface mount any through hole leaded? The reason I ask this is because I don’t have tools for surface mount component removal and solder.

Do you happen to have a schematic of it? I’d love to look it over and try to figure out why these things go dead after a year.
Dang, that's discouraging to hear. They have a "lifetime guarantee" but it would suck to have to go through this to send it back every year. However this isn't really a daily driver, so I'd hope it'd last longer than that.

Everything is surface mount except for the bargraph and 7 seg displays. I don't have a schematic, but it wouldn't be difficult to make one, it's a simple 2 sided board with fat traces (actually, 3 boards, 1 for the speedo/tach and 2 for the smaller gauges). When I had it hooked up to my benchtop power supply, I was calibrating the voltage gauge (there's a trimpot to adjust for accuracy) and when I got it up in the 15-16v range those voltage regulators on the top of the board were singing. I'd rather not disassemble it again for further analysis, but I took these pics when trying to troubleshoot the brake warning light issue:
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The 12v ignition hot source has a large diode protecting the voltage regulators from negative voltage spikes, so that's good. The ICs are PIC microcontrollers and 7 seg decoders. It all looks fairly well protected from transients to my non-professional eye, but if I had to guess a failure point, it'd probably be the voltage regulators. There's 2 7805 voltage regulators (which are commonplace in consumer electronics, but I think are probably not the best choice for an automotive environment) supplying power to the ICs, and 2 others I can't tell from the picture (probably 8v) supplying power for the LEDs.

If these ever die on me, I'll be sure to post a post-mortem here before I send them back. Digital gauges are not very complicated devices, which is why I started making my own in the first place, lol. Hard to justify $1500 for a set of gauges when you know how they work.
 
Dang, that's discouraging to hear. They have a "lifetime guarantee" but it would suck to have to go through this to send it back every year. However this isn't really a daily driver, so I'd hope it'd last longer than that.

Everything is surface mount except for the bargraph and 7 seg displays. I don't have a schematic, but it wouldn't be difficult to make one, it's a simple 2 sided board with fat traces (actually, 3 boards, 1 for the speedo/tach and 2 for the smaller gauges). When I had it hooked up to my benchtop power supply, I was calibrating the voltage gauge (there's a trimpot to adjust for accuracy) and when I got it up in the 15-16v range those voltage regulators on the top of the board were singing. I'd rather not disassemble it again for further analysis, but I took these pics when trying to troubleshoot the brake warning light issue:
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The 12v ignition hot source has a large diode protecting the voltage regulators from negative voltage spikes, so that's good. The ICs are PIC microcontrollers and 7 seg decoders. It all looks fairly well protected from transients to my non-professional eye, but if I had to guess a failure point, it'd probably be the voltage regulators. There's 2 7805 voltage regulators (which are commonplace in consumer electronics, but I think are probably not the best choice for an automotive environment) supplying power to the ICs, and 2 others I can't tell from the picture (probably 8v) supplying power for the LEDs.

If these ever die on me, I'll be sure to post a post-mortem here before I send them back. Digital gauges are not very complicated devices, which is why I started making my own in the first place, lol. Hard to justify $1500 for a set of gauges when you know how they work.
Hmm, a big part of me thought it was a lot of people hooking it up incorrectly. If it has safety diodes I’m now sure how they are failing. I might look into seriously picking one of these up now.
 
Hmm, a big part of me thought it was a lot of people hooking it up incorrectly. If it has safety diodes I’m now sure how they are failing. I might look into seriously picking one of these up now.
I'd be interested to see exactly what failures are being reported. Considering this particular kit consists of 3 separate boards with 3 separate power supplies, I'd be surprised if the whole thing died at once.
 
I'd be interested to see exactly what failures are being reported. Considering this particular kit consists of 3 separate boards with 3 separate power supplies, I'd be surprised if the whole thing died at once.
I think you nailed it with the voltage regulators. Maybe they are not adequate enough? Could find some capable of handling much more voltage. That was my idea when thinking of purchasing this kit. Just rebuild it with high rated components.
 
I think you nailed it with the voltage regulators. Maybe they are not adequate enough? Could find some capable of handling much more voltage. That was my idea when thinking of purchasing this kit. Just rebuild it with high rated components.
Or possibly that trim pot gets bumped and allows too much voltage through? What is the sweep of that pot?
 
I'd be interested to see exactly what failures are being reported. Considering this particular kit consists of 3 separate boards with 3 separate power supplies, I'd be surprised if the whole thing died at once.
If you find it on Amazon or google read the reviews. Many people report the gauge bars disappearing first and then all the gauges disappear
 
Man those gauges look like there are from an 80's vette or S10. Can you change the color?
Unfortunately no, you can order them in a bunch of different colors though. I've always loved the C4 Vette dash, so that did play into the decision to buy these, lol
 
My dads ‘76 c10 has these gauges, and they all seem to read way off/low. They were installed by the previous owner. I may PM you about some of this since you actually did the install on yours. Do your gauges all appear to read accurate?

I’m trying to convince him we need to just rip them out and do a set of dakota digital
 
My dads ‘76 c10 has these gauges, and they all seem to read way off/low. They were installed by the previous owner. I may PM you about some of this since you actually did the install on yours. Do your gauges all appear to read accurate?

I’m trying to convince him we need to just rip them out and do a set of dakota digital
Only thing I can confirm right now is the volt gauge, I still need to finish getting the fuel system and exhaust installed before I run it, hoping to get it started next week. Did he use the sending units that came with the kit? They are oddball resistances and won't work with the factory senders (I've determined the oil pressure sender is a 0-100 psi 240-33 ohm sender). I've been trying to determine the resistances so I can replace the senders if they go bad in the future, still haven't tested the water temp yet.
 
Only thing I can confirm right now is the volt gauge, I still need to finish getting the fuel system and exhaust installed before I run it, hoping to get it started next week. Did he use the sending units that came with the kit? They are oddball resistances and won't work with the factory senders (I've determined the oil pressure sender is a 0-100 psi 240-33 ohm sender). I've been trying to determine the resistances so I can replace the senders if they go bad in the future, still haven't tested the water temp yet.
The gauges were installed by the previous owner, so not sure about using stock ones or ones with the gauges (i’m sure I could look to see if they are OE looking or aftermarket) I was thinking that the sending units were likely culprit. Can you source replacements from them? Or are you on your own to find proper replacements?
 
The gauges were installed by the previous owner, so not sure about using stock ones or ones with the gauges (i’m sure I could look to see if they are OE looking or aftermarket) I was thinking that the sending units were likely culprit. Can you source replacements from them? Or are you on your own to find proper replacements?
You can order replacements from them (looks like they're actually having a 25% off sale for the holiday, damn, should've waited, lol)



It lists the ohm ranges on the page actually, nice. Might be able to use that to find something at O'Reilly that would work (or to check your existing senders with an ohmmeter)
 
Decided to do some testing to see if I could trust the gauges to show accurate oil pressure when I start the motor for the first time in 3 years. As luck would have it, my air compressor blower nozzle is also 1/8 npt, so I hooked it up with the regulator set to 40psi to see what we got.
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Seems to read a smidge high, but pretty close. Hopefully with oil it'll come back down.
 
Sucks that you have to use their senders. They should provision for user calibration or even just have some DIP switches for a few common options.
 
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