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Interesting TBI fuel pump issue recently

4xcrazy

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Just thought i'd post up alittle thing that just happened to me recently with my TBI motor,,,
i was on my way home from visiting someone, i stopped at a redlight and the check engine light came on, i thought to myself, oh great, now what, seeing as this is a brand new motor and trans :crazy:

I go to take off from the stoplight and there is absolutely NO power, sluggish, spittin & sputtering and when i finally do get it going, it just sounds like it's missing a random cylinder or few erradically.

Luckily only a few miles away from home, limped it there via back-roads and parked it for the night.

Next morning i go out to start diagnosing the issue, it almost acts like a severe vacuum leak, so i start checkin things out. After not really finding anything, i pull the vacuum feed off the MAP sensor and plugged the hose with my finger, the engine idled up for a second, then back down to normal and smoothed out, so i picked up a new one thinking maybe that was broken inside somewhere/how, no joy, still ran like crap.

FINALLY, after some time tinkering with everything else, i start messin with something i really did not want to mess with,,, the fuel system. What's interesting, is the first thing i did, was remove the gas cap, when i tried to start the engine after that,it had a REAL hard time getting going, and just wouldn't run, just from that alone. SO, i decided to remove the fuel filter and hook up the pressure gauge kit...cranked it over, and well,,,, 4 psi pressure DAMN..:crazy:

Dropped the tank, got everything removed, bought a new fuel pump from NAPA, the OEM replacement Delphi, (uncle discount from working there :D) and upon removal, i noticed the little rubber hose going from the pump to the feed tube on the sending unit had a small slice in it about 1/4" long,,,wow,never seen this happen before.

SO i'm assuming the pump isn't really bad, but just losing pressure from the hole in the hose, but i went ahead and replaced it with the new pump just because it was new :D

got it all back together, hit the key a couple times to prime, cranked for a couple seconds and fired right up and ran great.

SO, just thought i'd share this experiance for those of you running fuel injected systems, that just because the pressure is low, it may be something as stupid as a $1 part?
 
If I had gone that far, I would have replaced the pump too. And a new filter, both in tank and external.

Next item to ponder, why did that hose have a split in it?
 
If I had gone that far, I would have replaced the pump too. And a new filter, both in tank and external.

Next item to ponder, why did that hose have a split in it?


i DID replace the pump & strainer along with all components that came with the repair kit, AND a new filter since i had it off anyways to install the fuelpressure gauge kit.

as far as the hose with the split in it, the rubber actually looked like it wasn't suppose to be submerged in gas, it was soft, squishy and slightly swollen. :doah: (don't do it) :D

which is weird, cause i replaced this pump the last time, and used the items that were in THAT repair kit as well,, i dunno, good 'ol Autozone i guess :rolleyes:

not anymore though, pretty well fed up with their cheap crap they have been selling me for awhile.
 
f*ck Autozone..... I only use them in an emergency, and even then I feel dirty and lame.... or maybe, soft, squishy and slightly swollen? :wink1::haha:
 
SO, just thought i'd share this experiance for those of you running fuel injected systems, that just because the pressure is low, it may be something as stupid as a $1 part?

Got news for you, that hose is special and IS NOT the same as regulare fuel hose and cost like 25.00/ft the last I checked. It is called submersible fuel hose.
 
Tip, any fuel pump issues get new gm parts. No autozone no airtex, to many failures.


I live airtex suckage when I worked at advanced. Infact we had a shop stop doing business with us. Put in a defective pump, put the tank back in the car and got nothing. Send them another pump and wahlah.

They demanded we eat the labor for the first pump as the products we sell dont have good QC in their eyes. I couldnt blame them but they got denied.
 
Got news for you, that hose is special and IS NOT the same as regulare fuel hose and cost like 25.00/ft the last I checked. It is called submersible fuel hose.


ok, $4.16 part, as there's only like 2" of this hose on there :D
 
Dropped the tank, got everything removed, bought a new fuel pump from NAPA, the OEM replacement Delphi, (uncle discount from working there :D) and upon removal, i noticed the little rubber hose going from the pump to the feed tube on the sending unit had a small slice in it about 1/4" long,,,wow,never seen this happen before.

Same thing happened to my grandpa's 92 gmc truck. I think the fuel filter was probably plugged and caused the pressure to build up and split the already brittle hose.
 
I have had more fuel hose issues since we started with the ethanol around here than ever before.
 
don't let em fool ya, ethanol swells rubber... thats just one of the issues we're finding in the marine biz with it...
 
I had the same issue on my S10 blazer. Had the 2.8 in it at the time. Thought it jumped time, so I swapped in a 4.3 I had. Still didn't run right. Dropped the tank and the hose was split.
 
I've got to check mine sometime. Pressure is fine at around 13psi, it just does not hold once I shut the motor down. I'm worried this is just an early symptom of an eminent failure.
 
I've got to check mine sometime. Pressure is fine at around 13psi, it just does not hold once I shut the motor down. I'm worried this is just an early symptom of an eminent failure.

that may be a pressure regulator problem starting up there, bleeding down when the engine is off.
 
TBI will not hold pressure once the engine is shut off. Once the pump stops pumping the pressure gauge should drop to zero.
 
TBI will not hold pressure once the engine is shut off. Once the pump stops pumping the pressure gauge should drop to zero.

Well there you have it: I don't have anything to worry about then.
How about at key on motor off?
 
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