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It's been a decade or so.. and now I'm not sure what to do

BillyBob

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Hello all,
I'm not sure I even know anyone anymore on this forum other than Rene... Well, over a decade and a half ago, I joined this forum under the suggestion of my highschool friend who got me into these trucks (BigGray71) and found it to be a huge help as a teenager not knowing what in the hell I was doing with a two and a half ton GM SUV.
With assistance from the community here, I was able to swap in some 3/4 ton differentials and a 4" lift with my own hands. The very weekend after doing that, I drove 300 or so miles to the now gone Paragon adventure park for the UCP on the Rocks charity trail ride, where I met Wayne, Donna, Cowboy and a few other folks who were on CK5 in the 2001-2002 era.
A few years later, the K5 began to have the usual rocker rot, despite being a Florida truck and having the factory Zebart option. I shelved it until I could find a body shop to do something with it. In early 2007, it went into a local shop where it would be worked on on the side, as I had found a beater by then.
Fast forward nearly a decade later, life had me busy and the body shop never really called me. Out .of sight, out of mind. The owner suffered a massive heart attack, but survived it. He needed to sell the business, and I needed to get my truck back. Mind you, it was the last thing on my mind, and now I needed to find space for this thing in the suburbs of Northern NJ, which is no easy feat.
So I get the truck back, in full primer, and it looks great. Only issue is, well, it has no door or tailgate glass. It's literally parts except for a shell. Being that it lived inside a body shop while they sprayed everything around it, the interior has a thick layer of overspray silt on the wheel. It didn;t have much of an interior beforehand, so that's not as big of a deal, but still annoying.
Not being all that mechanically inclined, I feel overwhelmed. I should theoretically have most of the parts, but some things are notably missing. I'm not sure a chilton's manual alone is going to help me. So I am stuck at an impasse. Do I sell this truck, or do I work on it slowly?
I could use the money for sure, as the wife and I are in a good amount of debt and the body is in excellent shape for a 32 year old truck now that it's patched up. Thing is I would need to find someone that knows what they are looking at to appreciate the work. I'm not sure if I can find that in my region.
If I keep it, the immediate concern is getting the truck secured so no animals decide to reside in it, which means putting glass and rubber in the doors and tailgate, then slapping everything in the doors to keep them latched. I'm sure this sounds like a cake walk to someone who has done it before, but hell if I know what I'm doing. And then after that, I need to get this thing undercoated before the weather starts rotting it out again. If I had the money, I'd get it finished, but aforementioned debt makes that impossible. Doing it myself runs into the issue of time and limited experience. However, I'm willing to do it, as it isn't my daily driver.
I could use some advice if anyone has any. I'll try and post pictures as I mess around with things in the truck and try and tear it down.
 
Welcome back! I'm amazed you still have your K5 15 years later...and I think it'd be a shame to just get rid of it at this point. Partially assembled projects don't bring in a ton of money, people generally want fresh canvas, or a finished painting. You mentioned finding space for it was difficult, but you didn't mention much more. Is it outside space? on grass? Under trees? Figuring out how not to go backwards on this truck I think is the first step. Door glass and stuff isn't terribly hard, and either is tailgate glass.
 
I remember you! Welcome back to the board. I agree with tRusty, tough to get decent money when it is in parts. You don't have to make the decision immediately, which every you decide to keep it or sell, probably important to at least get it assembled so critters and sticky fingers don't get inside if it has to be kept outside. Getting it together and running driving I am sure will aid in the decision. I meet people and find out what they are good at and use their knowledge and assistance sometimes in trade for beverages, food, or even some money or trade stuff, to get what I need to done, and I learn along the way. Anywhere during the project it can be sold or kept as life dictates.

Chiltons, or other manuals, LMC, brothers and other catalogs, along with looking at vehicles that are together has helped me immensely in the re-assembly when I wasn't sure how it should go back together. In this age of all digital pics from other members goes a long way. Glad you are back and whatever you decide we are all here to guide you along the way.
 
Well, I just got back inside from tearing apart most of the passenger's door and got the glass, handle and vet window out of it. It was already partially disassembled, so I have no real clue how it got to the state it was in.

Also got the tail gate glass, regulator and motor out. the latch mechanism bolts are frozen to the sides of the gate, have them soaking in WD40 until I can get some PB blaster. Same issue with the damned interior handle. Hoping I don't have to get all new peices. Also, passenger's side window track wasn't even bolted to the tail gate at all... Attempted to put the regulator into the repro tailgate, and one of the bolts refuses to line up. I left it there with only 3 bolts in, as my back was killing me. Seemed to operate normally using a drill to wind the cable, No binding. But that may change if there is glass bolted to it.

Also had an issue with the repro doors not wanting to accept the vent tindow screws. It's friction fit in, but the only thing that's secured is the bolt that goes on the bottom of the glass channel.
Right now it's parked under some low lying trees, next to a brook. We have a problem with racoons (trash pandas) but they seem to stay away from it. It's currently under a cover, and fairly well hidden. I don't see anyone willingly rummaging through it for parts..

My wife is supporting me with keeping it, but like I said, money and time are an issue. Not to mention I don't know if anything has changed in terms of condition.
Quick list of things I know are wrong:
-I threw a 10 bolt tie rod in the Dana 44 when I swapped over to 3/4 ton, as the D44 didn;t have one. Steering is interesting....
-everything in front of the core support (lights grille, etc) is in a bucket or missing
-choke on the Quadrajet is messed up and the whole carb probably needs a rebuild
-front seats have the correct mounts, but aren't the correct seats, nor do they have adjustment sliders (if those even came on an 84?)
-Side mirrors are missing
-half the gauge cluster doesn't light up, actually burned out and smoked from dash a few years back
-oil pressure gauge never worked (probably something that got messed up when previous owner put a 350 in it)
-all rubber probably needs replacement (have door channels and outer seals and topper seals from order 9 years ago, rubber all still sealed and supple)

It's just a whole lot of things and me not knowing what I'm doing. The truck does run and drive. Started right up after we threw some gas in it and I wrestled the light truck megashifter until it went into gear. I just need to get it sealed up and probably undercoated to feel better about storing it.
 
A good quality primer is at least somewhat waterproof. Rattlecan, not so much.

Sounds like you need to make an honest decision with yourself. It's going to be a long project to get it back together and running. Are you ready for that? It's going to be a learning experience. With that said these trucks are super simple to work on, so if you wanted to learn something about mechanics, it's not the worst choice.
 
Honestly I wouldn't bother assembling it and send it off to another body shop for paint and undercoating. Then sell it as rust free and completed body work. No one likes body work. You could sell it for a wash or even a profit.
 
I agree with that, if its straight and clean, even a cheaper paint job is gonna look good. put it together with paint on it and then decide if you want to ditch it or keep it. A fresh paint, rust free rig with 3/4 tons is gonna be 6-9k depending on where your at. in NJ i dont know the market of course.
 
Decided to try and put it back together. Only issue is I've never ripped the truck apart, sooooo.... I don;t know how it goes back together. Have a chilton;s manual, but the body section is rather thin and has a lack of diagrams.
 
When you get to something you have questions about post up pictures.. And consider putting it in a build thread.
 
Well, right now, the drivers's side door only has the latch and interior handle working. Passenger's side is just a shell. If there is a diagram of parts and how they go back together, that would be helpful.
 
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