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i had and mildly wheeled a 95 4 door for awhile.
2" lift on 31s.
had a furking blast!
unibody sucks but is livable. if you plan on keeping it mild & sensible and still need to drive around town. i'd have no issues getting a cherokee. in fact i've thought about getting another one.
 
I am reminded years ago with TTC (when they actually had real looking trucks in the competition)

and there was a cherokee that had a front leaf spring swap in the front. i was thinking i would do that if it wasnt leaf spring already..

how is the uni-body on flex? ie: if i had 35" tires, flexed on one side stuffed into the fender?
 
the coils do pretty good.
but the unibody has terrible flexing as a body. not suspension.
as in cant open doors when flexed. i had a door bend into the fender adn get bent. the stereo bezel and dash cracked. but i also had no love done on the suspension w/ stock sway bars. doing that would help.
 
RIPPEDK5 said:
No a wrangler certainly isnt out of the question,


if that were the choice i think i would go with the leaf spring front version.
what is the difference in wheel base between a wrangler and a cherokee and a standard cab toyota?
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Wranglers are either all leafs or all coils. YJs are leafs, TJs are coils. All CJs are leafs too.

Coils blow leafs out of the water except one area and that is cost. I would never change from coils to leafs. But thats just me.

Wranglers are 93" wheel base give or take a half inch between TJs and YJs, unless your talking about an LJ.

Cherokees are 101

Shortbed toys are 101

Longbed toys are 110

extended cab toys are 112

those are all for 78-84

84-89 are about an inch longer as are the next generation.

runners are 102.

The around 100" wheelbase works very well in almost every situation, thats why cherokees and toyotas ( among other things ) work so well they have a great wheelbase.

Any unibody you want to keep nice needs some sort of unibody stiffening.

All sorts of weird things will break if you don't and wheel it alot. Interior bits, latches headliners etc all sorts of odd things quit fitting right
 
I have had bad experiences with a 98 grand cherokee i used to own and it being all squirrelly on the road... (the jeep would kinda flop back and forth under hard turning and be unstable..never had that problem with leafs (the jeep did have sway bars on it)---( like how a monster truck acts with broken sway bars)

and my buddy just blew his rear end in his grand cherokee (and he doesnt wheel it--its his wifes car) so im kinda wearing on life expectancy... so leaning toward the toyota more now

I saw a blaer for sale by where i work, so i stopped to ask him if it was for sale and it was.. (used car lot) and he wanted $5500..i was like :eek1: .. Its not worth it at all.. the tailgate window has been open through countless storms (its been raining here alot lately)..its soo sick what people want for things these days,.. I made an offer on my buddies jeep grand cherokee but no response yet
 
Grands have a bastard child of a aluminum D 44 in the rear.

Terrible axle center section flexes alot.


Best thing you can do to a Jeep ( cherokee, grand, or any wrangler) is throw an 8.8 out of an explorer in em. Thats a stout rear axle.

I have built alot of Toys though too, they are stout for what they are, just stay away from the 3.slow. 22re all the way.

I bet your panhard rod mount hole or bushings were worn out. Seen that a whole lot.
 
its possible, it had 33" tires and had death wobble bad, replaced every last part possible in the steering and suspension and still had issues


but the interior was comfortable and had a full time setup.

as far as the jeep my buddy has, he decided to part it out and not sell it
darn
 
blazinzuk said:
Best thing you can do to a Jeep ( cherokee, grand, or any wrangler) is throw an 8.8 out of an explorer in em. Thats a stout rear axle.
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While not as stout as an 8.8, the later 8.25 rears in Cherokees are 29 spline and fairly stout. I've owned my 1998 Cherokee for about 6 years now. It's been wheeled, at least mildly, alot of that time. 4" lift and 31's now and I DD it. 18-20mpg highway. 4.0L, AX-15 5 Speed, NP242 swapped in last spring with a SYE and CV style rear drive shaft, geared 3.55. It's got 242000 on it right now and if it doesn't sell, I'll just keep driving it.

I will say this though, if I were going to start another Jeep build, be it DD or trail rig, it would be a TJ unlimited (commonly known as LJ even though this is not a true Jeep designation). The wheel base (there abouts) of a Cherokee with a removable top. Either that or an old CJ8 Scrambler with the later EFI engine/trans/t-case. I've actually considered finding a CJ8 and swapping the drive line from my XJ into it for a while now, but I know I have too many projects already to actually go through with it.
 
The only thing about keeping it street legal (which would be nice but not necessary) is the local lift laws around here.. while not seriously enforced, when ya go for inspection, it could be a nightmare.


i didn't know Cherokees came with a removable top. I havent seen a CJ? around here in years; that could be like finding a gold fish in the ocean

I seen a military (Jeep?) pickup M715? pipe dream around here but it was a cool idea to think about getting one of those, since the military gets some of the best of everything and is well maintained. though i dont have an auction license for military use..

a little off topic... cant afford a new jeep...quoted 500/month for a wrangler X at a dealer around here
 
i really liked my cherokee.01 was the last year xj.they were build real well by that time and you would be less miles and beat up unibody.i had a 91 and the original 86.both were fun to drive.the 4.0 ran like a top.i blew the transfer case on it and had to replace the control arms.other than that it was fun to drive for the 3 years i had it.got 17 mpg.they are easy to lift.only need 2 inch lift to run 32 or 33 with a lil trimming.4 inch would be better but then you start having to change more parts and have steering issues when the axle articulates.
 
Well I have made my choice.......it might be a shocker since we have been talking mainly about jeeps.


I just ran into a toyota owner. While I didnt get a pic. it was and early 80's toyota pickup with 8" of lift, no bed, but had a complete frame, cab and front clip, with tube, and a stinger front bumper.. while it wasnt forsale.. It was running all factory running gear and leaf springs (accept for added power steering) running 36's..

I will be aimed to 1985 and older toyota pickup and do the similar set-up just maybe not get rid of the bed
 
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