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Avery4jc

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dismounting them manually SUCKS. :mad:

I'm getting new tires tomorrow (35x15.5-15 TSL's) so tonight was the time I had set aside to dismount my Baja Claws...
Well that didn't go so well...


I got the beads broken but I can't get the freakin' rims out of the tires. I've researched and even asked a tire shop and I still can't get it done. I'll have to check around in the morning for a shop with a machine big enough to peel them off.


Have you guys dismounted big (as in 38" +) tires by hand? If so how'd you do it?
 
Personally I never had any problems dismounting tires by hand. I do it all the time. You have the beads broken and thats that hard part. Now what I do is I get two of my big pry bars. one is about 4 foot in length and the other about 3 feet in length. take one and put it under the bead and pry it above the lip of the rim. put the other about 8 to 10 inches away and pry the bead above the rim. Keep the first bar in the same place (put your foot on it) and work the other one all the way around until the bead clears the tire. Now take the first bar and hook the inside bead and repeat all the way around. takes me about 10 min a tire to compleatly dismount them...one tip is sometimes its easier to get the bead over the rim if you put your knee on the tire directly below the first bar..eg. if the first bar is at the 12 o'clock position, put your knee at 6 o'clock. another tip..get some liqiud hand soap..like dial or something..and lube the bead and lip of the rim up..makes em slipery..keep at it..you'll get it...mounting them is even easier..i also always mount my own..way pay to do something that I can?
 
Can you get the rim half way out? Or not even that far?

I do it all the time. Everything from 13" geo tires to 44" Boggers. The more sidewall the easier they are. Are you lubbing up the bead? It really helps to get the wheel out of there. Use soapy water, wd40, motor oil...pretty much anything that will create less friction. Are you trying this by yourself? If so then get some longer tire irons. It really helps to have someone else there to help man handle it.
 
bigger are easier. and have you got the first bead off yet?

if not you just take a big ass screwdriver or prybar or preferably the proper tire bar tool thing. it also helps to have a bucket or something to kinda elevate it a little.
get the other side of the bead into the valley of the rim and peel your side over.
work it around with another screwdriver or bar. windex soapy water or wd40 works good for loob.

for the outside bead just pull the newly removed inside bead. farthest away from you just pull the one still on the rim up into the valley and closest to you put the prybar between the rim and tire. wiggle it up and peel that one over the bead. working it around with more screwdrivers until it comes off.


comprende?
 
Just be careful with those screwdrivers/prybars. I cut the beads a little on some of my 42s when I mounted them
 
I'm doing most of what you guys suggested... I have a block of wood under the rim to keep it elevated off the concrete... I also have a cup of soapy water and a brush that I've been scooping onto the lip of the rim/sidewall of the tire and I've been using one 3' pry bar and a smaller 12" one...

Basically I've been standing on the sidewalls (sort of straddling it) to get the tire down to the smaller part of the wheel. Then I stick the big pry par in the gap in front of me and put a towel on the rim where the pry bar will push against... then I pry. I can get that far and it pops a small section of the tire above the rim but I can't get another pry bar in next to it to get another section up.

I'm doing a trade + cash sort of deal with a guy for his TSL's and I was supposed to be at his place (an hour away from here) at 8:00am tomorrow morning but it looks like I'll have to give him a ring to let him know I'll be running behind. I know a tire shop in clovis (city next to Fresno) that does big stuff for cheap (that's where I got the claws mounted originally) so I'll catch them in the morning.

I'd keep messin' with it but I don't want to jack up a sidewall on a tire I'm supposed to be trading.
 
Put two pry bars in to start with. Put them about 6" appart. One to get the bead over the rim and the other to start walking it around. Take smaller "bites" out of it.
 
Put two pry bars in to start with. Put them about 6" appart. One to get the bead over the rim and the other to start walking it around. Take smaller "bites" out of it.

I tried that too (with the help of my dad) and they just got stuck... I tried to slide/walk/force one of them around and it wouldn't budge... I even tried giving it some love with a BFH.
Maybe it's something to do with the pry bars I have... they don't slide very well and they're kind of thick.


Oh and I forgot to mention... just to top things off when I pulled the driver's front wheel off I thought I heard something clink... this is the same hub that came loose a while back when we were in the dunes so I figured the spindle nuts came loose again... I reach down and rock it back and forth and to my surprise the entire ball joint on top is rocking back and forth! So it looks like the k10 is stuck in the driveway until I can figure out how to fix that...
 
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<---- Piece of cake to get the tires off these wheels. :P



Of course tightening 128 bolts in a star pattern and at three torque levels is a major PITA. :doah:
 
Do you have reversed wheels (usually around 2.5" of backspacing)? If so, are you trying to dismount them from the back side?
 
Do you have reversed wheels (usually around 2.5" of backspacing)? If so, are you trying to dismount them from the back side?

I've already taken care of this but to answer your question my rims are 4.25" BS and I tried both ways...
 
get 16.5's there very easy to take off the rims lol

I think i could get a tire off a 16.5 rim faster than my hummer bead locks
 
Always do mine manually. I mount them the same way but having to balance them I take them somewhere.

There's always problems but it usually only takes a few minutes
 
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