Thanks for letting me ramble but I'm trying to get my thoughts together. Right now its late winter and I'm seriously considering to buy some sort of off-road vehicle. This way it will be ready by spring/summer. I have plenty of friends to go wheeling with, its just that I've always had an on-road vehicle. My daily is a RWD sports car and I have a sport bike. Both not very off-roadable. Last weekend I did a quick wheel trip with some friends and after that seeing them going through mud, driving through ruts, traversing a stream, and driving over fallen trees, I've gotten the bug to go offroading and get muddy as balls. The only thing I've had remotely resembling an offroad vehicle was an R/C battery powered Blackfoot when I was a kid in 5th grade. I thought one day I'll have a full sized one. I loved that thing and it turned into a money pit, just like I'm sure this endeavour will. I'm trying to decide whether to 1) Get a K5 or 2) Get a 4 wheeler. Pro's of K5, Cons of wheeler: Can be useable on the street Useable for other things (tow vehicle, snow plow etc) Able to haul stuff Safer then wheeler Ultimately more upgrade/custom options available Cons of K5, pro's of wheeler Must pay for tags More gas useage Most pay for insurance every 6 months Must be reasonably street legal Large/harder to store, can't go in tight areas More expensive to upgrade If something breaks, more expensive to repair I have found an 87 K5 for a pretty good price as described in this thread: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129067 although I still havent been able to take a good look at it. It is stock, has low miles on it and has not been off roaded before. Im thinking about it and then turning it into a beast. I don't know much about 4 wheelers, but the time I rode one while everybody was blasting through the woods, I felt really unsafe on the thing (and I am a sport bike rider, so its not like I'm not used to "motorsports"). Probabaly also because I'm used to leaning to steer at higher speeds. I have access to a small trailer with ramp that I can use and tow the 4 wheeler with my car so getting it around won't be an issue. And if I break down on the trail, there will always be a way home, where if the K5 breaks down on a trail, I'm screwed. Any input on what you all would do? (sorry getting both is not really an option).