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Kingpin blues...

Zeus33rd

Zeus33rd

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Doin a semi rebuild of the 60, wheelbearings, wheel seals, axles seals, and kingpin rebuild. I've got everything done except for the damn kingpins. When I was taking them apart, I was really really hoping that theyd be in good shape and I wouldn't ahve to change them out. But of course not, both of them are scarred up pretty good...:( So I've got the truck in the shop at High Angle workin on it, using some of Jesse's tools. First thing I tried was a lugnut in the kingpin, and a 7/8 impact wocket on the lug nut with Jesse's 1/2" ratchet. Hit it with some heat from the torch, then stuck a cheater on Jesse's ratchet. 1/2 Craftsmen ratchet exploded. So I welded the ratchet up solid, and tried again. Broke the handle of the ratchet. So I took stub of what was left and welded it into a 4' piece of 2 1/4x .375 wall dom. Tried again. Busted the 1/2" square drive part off inside the socket. Then I welded the lug nut to what was left of the ratchet. Tried again. Twisted the lug nut in half. :eek1:

All my tools are 80 miles away in my Gramps shop, just havent moved them up here yet. I've got all the 3/4 drive stuff I would need. I gave up after a couple hours of blowing stuff up. Tommorrow I'm gonna tackle it again...Any suggestions? :confused:
 
Weld a huge nut on the end of the pin. Lotsa heat on the C. 3/4 breaker or impact, if the weld is good it will come out.
 
I've also heard of folks making a wrench from 3 or 4 feet of 7/8's hex stock. Just heat and bend it 90 degrees at one end.
 
Oh yeah, don't forget to tighten living snot out of the new ones. The spec is 600 ft/lbs as I recall. :eek1:

I guess that's why they're so difficult to remove... :rolleyes:
 
HarryH3 said:
Oh yeah, don't forget to tighten living snot out of the new ones. The spec is 600 ft/lbs as I recall. :eek1:

I guess that's why they're so difficult to remove... :rolleyes:
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Yep, I installed mine the same way I got them out. 7/8" allen key and about 4 hits each with the 16 pound sledge. No problems as of yet, 2 years later. Also used some anti-seze on the threads.
 
Well, I bought a 7/8 allen wrench, and used a piece of my uninstalled rollcage about 6' long. Took maybe 50 lbs of force or so :D.
 
Were did you guys buy this 7/8" hex stock? I can get a 3/4 drive 7/8 impact socket from the Snap-On truck for like $50. I could try welding the nut to the kingpin to get the old one out, but then I still need to get the new one in there. Prolly just end up buying the socket. :eek1:
 
We've made a few out of 7/8" hex and a 7/8" - 3/4" drive socket lots of heat and out she comes. A few inches of hex bar is the cheap and dirty way to do it. I can make one here and send it to you for under $50 :thinking:

Jordan
NWF
 
I paid like $12 for my 7/8" allen wrench. Just can't find the damn thing on the net anymore. Will keep looking though.
 
Here you go. 7/8" L-HEX ALLEN WRENCH

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Joe, i bought a 7/8" allen wrench from Orchard Supply Hardware for about $13.00 and then ordered from work a 3/4" drive 7/8" impact socket then cut off a piece of the allen wrench so that it was just long enough to go in between the end of the king pin and the end of the socket then used a 4' cheaper bar and out it cam with the first pull. I have a Snap-on 3/4" drive 600 ft. lb. torque wrench to install the new king pin with so the 600 ft. tq. was no problem for me.
 
NorthWestFab said:
We've made a few out of 7/8" hex and a 7/8" - 3/4" drive socket lots of heat and out she comes. A few inches of hex bar is the cheap and dirty way to do it. I can make one here and send it to you for under $50 :thinking:

Jordan
NWF
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How much under $50? :crazy::haha:

Gimme a cost and I might just have ya do that. You could just send it to High Angle Driveline. I was hoping to get it buttoned up today, but it looks like I might just wait till after x-mas. I still need to replace the bearings/races in one of the hubs, thats something I can get done in the mean time. Thanks!
 
4X4HIGH said:
Joe, i bought a 7/8" allen wrench from Orchard Supply Hardware for about $13.00 and then ordered from work a 3/4" drive 7/8" impact socket then cut off a piece of the allen wrench so that it was just long enough to go in between the end of the king pin and the end of the socket then used a 4' cheaper bar and out it cam with the first pull. I have a Snap-on 3/4" drive 600 ft. lb. torque wrench to install the new king pin with so the 600 ft. tq. was no problem for me.
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Did the Orchard place actually have it in stock in the store? How bout a Tractor Supply store? Hmmm...
 
Yes, they had it in stock on the shelf. I walked in and found the allen wrench's then picked it up looked at the price and proceeded to the counter and paid for it.

Now that i think of it, i still have a good portion of the left over wrench in my tool box and could easily cut you off a piece and mail it to you. Let me know if you want me to do that unless you are wanting something quicker.
 
I found a 7/8" allen at Osh in Chico. $15. Stuck a 5' cheater on it and had the kingpins out in less than a minute, no heat required. :D Here's a pic of the allen with the bottle of Newcastle and the keyboard for size reference-
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And the hosed kingpins-(big pic warning)
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Unfortuneatley, I thrashed one of the lower kingpin seals trying to get it installed, so I couldn't get it finished. :mad: It's a bitch to do layin on your back and looking up at it. Anyways, no one in town had one, so where the hell can I get just the seal? Every place I called wanted to sell me an entire kingpin kit. A dealer?:crazy:
 
Yeah, I think the dealer would be the place to get them seperately. I got my seals with the whole kit.

Might try general places like Autozone, Napa, or Advance. They might have a seal kit, and not an entire rebuild kit.
 
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