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Late ALTERNATOR wiring

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Help!! I've bought one of those GM serpentine belt set ups. The 105amp alt comes with a plug that has 1 thick and 3 thin wires coming out of it. Anyone know where they all go? The alt also has the usual main feed terminal post. My diagrams only show 3 wires and even then don't show what is what. :confused:
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your connector has 4 wires? I have a newer one, serp setup, I hooked 8G from the post to the batt and hooked the wire in the middle to an ignition hot source.
 
I have that same kit. I didn't use the wire harness that came in the kit. You need a different one. Just a second and I'll find the part number you need.
 
Okay this should give you all the info you need.

In 1986 GM introduced the completely new, 105-amp, CS130 Delcotron alternator (CS130 = Charging System with 130mm diameter stator) because the SI alternators could not keep up with the increased electrical demand and because overdrive transmissions were lowering engine and alternator rpms. The CS130 weighs less, is smaller in diameter (but uses the same 6.6" mounting-hole, center-to-center distance photo 3), uses less internal parts, has a better voltage regulator system, has increased durability and is less noisy (audibly and electrically) than the SI alternator it replaced. There is also a 120-amp, CS144 version if you need more output because you're running large amounts of electrical equipment in your vehicle such as high-powered stereos.
NOTE: This conversion is designed for cars with internally regulated alternators. If your car has an externally regulated alternator you will need to convert it first. Use this diagram and go to Alex Bilan's Alternator Conversion webpage for more information on converting to an internally regulated alternator.
You will need 105-amp CS130 alternator from and late-80's GM truck or full size car with mounting ears that are 180-deg apart (photo 3). I got mine from the local PepBoys and it didn't take too long to find one with the correct mounting ears. I paid about $100 for new one with a lifetime warranty. Most will probably come with a pulley for a serpentine belt (like mine did) so you will have to change over your pulley if you are still using a V-belt.

The flange for the tensioning bolt and the alternator bracket are tapped for metric bolts so you will need to get two 8mm bolts with a thread pitch of 1.25mm. A 13mm wrench will be needed to tighten the bolts. The alternator bracket will also need to be modified and you will need approx two washers to take up the space between the alternator bracket and the alternator. Photo 11 shows the modifications needed to allow the bracket to fit the CS alternator. The red line shows the original shape of the bracket and how much needs to be ground away.

Most of the connectors for the CS alternators are four wire but will only use two of them and the wiring is the same as the SI.
· S = a heavy gauge wire to the battery supply (horn relay)
· F = not used
· L = a small gauge wire that comes from the idiot light and energizes the alternator
· P = not used
You need to purchase a conversion adapter that is just 2 short wires and 2 connectors. One is a CS connector to plug into the alternator, the other is a female connector to accept the SI plug from your original harness. There are two different types of conversion adapters. One is a non-resistor and the other has some resistance built-in it. The "L" wire that energizes the alternator needs some resistance (35 ohms or more) in it otherwise it will cause the alternator to fail. If you have a warning light in the dash then that bulb serves as the needed resistance and you should use the non-resistor adapter. If you don't have that bulb or have less than 35 ohms resistance in the "L" wire then you will need the adapter with resistance built in. If the "L" wire has more than 350 ohms then there is a problem with that wire and it will need to be fixed.
Non-resistor adapters:- AC Delco: 8077- Haywire: 2110- Painless Wiring: 30707 Resistor adapters:- AC Delco: 8078




Steps:
1. Turn key to run position verify charging system warning light comes on
2. Remove negative battery cable
3. Disconnect the 2-wire plug from the side of the SI alternator
4. Disconnect the heavy battery wire from the BATT terminal on the back of the SI alternator
5. Remove belt
6. Remove SI alternator
7. Install pulley from SI alternator to CS alternator
8. Remove alternator mounting bracket from SI alternator
9. Modify alternator mounting bracket (photo 11)
10. Install alternator mounting bracket and 2 washers to the CS alternator
11. Measure the resistance in the "L" wire
12. Connect CS wiring adapter to the CS alternator
13. Connect the heavy battery wire to the BATT terminal on the back of the CS alternator
14. Connect the wiring adapter to the original SI connector
15. Mount the CS alternator to the engine
16. Install belt and tighten
17. Check all of your connections
18. Make sure alternator output terminal is not shorting to ground
19. Connect the negative battery cable
20. If you don't have an installed voltmeter, connect a voltmeter to the battery terminals
21. Start the car
22. The charging system warning light should go out and there should be 14v at the battery. If there is not, check all connections
NOTE: the alternator supply line that connects to the BATT post on the back of the alternator is usually a 10- or 12-gauge wire. For a CS conversion, I suggest using at least an 8-ga charge wire.

I bolded the info you're after specifically.

I used the resistor adapter. The part number isn't the same anymore, but the guy at the dealership was able to cross it over. Don't know how easy it will be for you to get it, being over in the UK and all. Shoot me a PM if you need me to hook you up.

I was unimpressed with some of the things that kit didn't have.
 
Scott, you're a bloody hero!!! :) (as we say over here!) Thanks for the excellent info. I may well take you up on the offer. I'll see what I need tomorrow. Thanks again. :waytogo:
 
No problem! Just let me know.

The nice thing about the plug referenced above, is that you old will plug right into it. I liked that because it didn't require splicing wires.
 

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