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JOES89K5

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Hello members I'm looking to brightening my rear tail lights on my 89 K5. The signals and lights I don't think are bright enough. I'm thinking some LEDs but not sure which ones if they are specific and or what other components I might have to add to accomplish the task. Thanks for any help. Joe
 
If you just want bulbs you can buy drop in replacements like the Sylvania Zevo. They are considerably brighter than the bulbs you have now. Assuming all of your other bulbs stay incandescent then you will not need to add anything else. If you swap your other bulbs to LED as well you will need a LED flasher relay to replace your thermal one.

If you want super bright, buy the full replacement tail lights from Dakota digital or china or whoever
 
I have not had real good look with LED's. Part of the problem I believe is that I'm using cheap LED's. Good ones are expensive.

That said, I've not had a lot of luck with the LED's in any case. My electrical system is in pretty good shape, but they A) aren't bright enough, B) don't broadcast light in a large enough area C) make my blinkers act stupid, even with the "proper" electronic flashers.

Out of curiosity, I did buy a cheap adjustable electronic flasher (yep, it's a thing, just found out about them) but haven't had the chance to try one and see if it helps the stupid hyperflash problem.

Note that on any lights that are "combination" (like the side marker or bumper/grille mounted parking light/turn signals) will not work with standard LED's, as LED's must be oriented correctly in the socket, +/- have to be correct. But on the marker lights, the system reverses polarity for blinking, and the LED's do not work like that. They make polarity non-specific LED's, but I've not seen any cheap enough to try out.
 
I acquired a new pair of trailer LED tail lights for my trailer when a buddy cracked the HF tail light cases while backing up, but the circuit boards and LEDs themselves were OK.

I took the LED boards in my hands and tried to imagine them inside the rear lenses of the GM standard tail light housings - maybe using hot glue to position them in place.

Sidebar: the LEDS light up RED - why I'm not sure but it might be in case the lens gets busted really bad and falls off. Sounds about right to me anyway.​

They should fit, I thought...... so I went for it!

It took a little thinking to remove just the right amount of existing plastic and lens support structure designed for the old bulb sockets and such.

I can say the results were very good. They are maybe 3 or 4 times brighter in tail light mode and maybe 5 times brighter in brake/flash mode.

For what it cost me (no cash, but some labor, a stick or two of hot glue and some rubbing compound) - it was a good deal.

The Trailer/RV tail light 'kit' from HF goes on sale for under $30 for the full set and you will have another pair of amber LED clearance lights for some other project later on if you have to buy the setup.

On the outside you can't see what's inside or how bright it'll be but once they are on - even in daylight - they rock out.

BTW: I also polished the red lens portion with a fleece buffing wheel and some swirl remover liquid compound. That was just a little extra that added some bling to the lenses again.

I've also replaced the dashboard lamps with LEDs - green for lower glare, and put a blue LED in the High Beam Socket - since the GM OE lamp is too wimpy to see in daylight and you might be driving in high beam in the daylight without knowing it.

The dash board LEDs I bought are not dim-able - but they are good enough as they are - and green is soft on the eyes anyway.

One thing I don't understand in posts by some people here is that they need to change the flasher or add a resister to make the LEDs draw enough current to flash correctly.

My K5 has the trailer towing package and the flasher still works even if all the bulbs are removed from that circuit.

That's because GM designs the lights in the towing package to work anyway - no matter the load. As it is I have not had to add anything to coax the flasher to work on my K5.

On a buddy's Tahoe, I added a real bulb and it's original socket, and just wrapped it in pipe insulation and conveniently dropped it into the area behind the tail light where it could light up and flash all it wanted -- until we could get him a set of resisters - which does exactly the same thing as a bulb to load the circuit down a bit.

There are ways ----> and there are ways! I'm in training to be a farmer.

I always wanted to be a cowboy with a horse, rescuing a damsel in distress and a Glock 10mm, but now I'm a farmer with some missing cows, a broken fence and a Glock 10mm.

It works for me.
 
I bought some new taillight lenses off amazon for $24 and some LED buds for reverse lights only from superbrightleds.com.

It made a huge difference being able to see at night, plus the new lenses make the other lights look brighter as well.
 
Make sure the electrical stuff is in order and have good lens'. I think I got new lens/housings for $10, somewhere, maybe Rockauto or Orielly's. I think mine are fine and blink bright enough. I have LED pods for reverse lights, so that's different.
 
I've fought the LED hyperflash issue on mine, it's frustrating. I've made doubly sure all the wiring is in good shape, grounds, etc.

I did discover that the same bulbs that hyperflash in the truck work fine used on the trailer hooked to the truck, but that is because I'm back to using incandescents in the truck.

Resistors can be added, or perhaps even LED boards that are setup with resistors and/or enough load to work the flasher, in my case, I'd prefer a cost effective drop in replacement. Honestly it's really academic, since the truck is driven so infrequently. Thus, incandescents, although I'm still going to play around with LED's. The newer style LED's with the yellow strips (epoxy?) that light up would seem to be a possibility for a light that works and looks good. And I've got some en route.
 
Hey you going to install the blue dot. I purchased the most latest LEDs out along with a Updated flasher.
 
Blue dot? For the high beam indicator? I used LED's for that one as well, but since it's not dimmed, it is quite bright. The turn signal indicators are a bit obnoxious but I figure if I get the cluster bezel in place, the smaller opening for the arrows will make it tolerable.

Really not a good recording, but this is what I ended up with, although I did away with the dimming function, and fixed the light output low enough that it didn't blind me at night.

I should probably re-record showing the blinkers and high beam indicator. The high beam indicator is definitely a winner though, I can tell they are on, day or night.
 
I decided against BLUE for my dashboard as it harms the visual purple in our retinas, making us blinded for a bit until the retina recovers.

That's why US Naval vessels use red on the bridge at night.

Red doesn't harm the retina nor it's response time, so vision is good at night.

I've got a blue LED lit CD player that is so obnoxiously bright that I built a small cardboard flap that covers it when I'm driving across state night.
 
Hey You learn something new every day didn’t know it scrambled vision. A guess it would be good in night combat. Ultra Blue flashing strobes.
 
NOTICE: reference material follows - (just like at school) - about 'Visual Purple".



rhodopsin
Visual pigment contained in the outer segments of the rod cells of the retina and involved in scotopic vision.

When light stimulates the retina, the chromophore of the pigment molecule '11-cis' retinal (which is vitamin A aldehyde) isomerizes to 'all-trans' retinal.

This leads to other chemical transformations which carry on even in the absence of light.

The first stage is prelumirhodopsin, then lumirhodopsin and finally metarhodopsin (of which there are two types).

This last transformation may lead to the breakdown of the molecule into retinal and opsin.

The molecule is regenerated by recombining retinal and opsin with some enzymes.

The absorption spectrum of rhodopsin has a maximum around 498 nm.

The isomerization from '11-cis' to 'all-trans' also gives rise to the process of transduction in which the membrane potential covering the pigment molecules in the outer segment changes towards a hyperpolarization of the cell.

This is the first step in the nervous response to a light stimulation of the retina.

Syn.
visual purple (not used any more); erythropsin.

See
dark adaptation; bleaching; receptor potential; absorption spectrum; transduction.
 
Hello I’m talking about the addition of the blue dot lens. They used to use the on older cars. It’s about a nickel in size then you drill out the hole in your back tail light lens red one and insert it in. Just something traditional people used to do with there cars.
 
I decided against BLUE for my dashboard as it harms the visual purple in our retinas, making us blinded for a bit until the retina recovers.

That's why US Naval vessels use red on the bridge at night.

Red doesn't harm the retina nor it's response time, so vision is good at night.

I've got a blue LED lit CD player that is so obnoxiously bright that I built a small cardboard flap that covers it when I'm driving across state night.


And they wonder why so many people crash into police cruisers at construction details...no wonder blue strobes blind the crap out of me!..:thinking:..

I have a dislike for all the little LED's they insist on putting on everything now,like on your cable TV "digital adapter" box (has a green one),and my Verizon Fios service box in the basement has two yellowish green ones...always on,and annoying to my eyes at night,they not only disturb my sleep,they look like eyes of some animal in the dark when you shine a flashlight on them..kind of creepy!..many TV's,CD & DVD players and radios have them now too..

It used to be my VCR clock flashing or being too bright was what annoyed me at night(most of them are blue too!)--,and I had to make cardboard "blinders" as you mentioned to block them from my vision at night--now its worse with the LEDs..if I cover the one on my cable tv adapter it blocks the remote's signals--good thing Comcast hands out a little "extender" sensor to overcome that issue..

I like LED flashlights but they seem to all have lousy switches--you think the battery is dead but after tapping or shaking it or moving the switch button they usually come back on..the batteries do not seem to last any longer than an old fashioned bulb though in my experience,I always carry spare batteries on me--I use mine a lot now that my eyes aren't getting any younger..
 
I decided against BLUE for my dashboard as it harms the visual purple in our retinas, making us blinded for a bit until the retina recovers.

That's why US Naval vessels use red on the bridge at night.

Red doesn't harm the retina nor it's response time, so vision is good at night.

I've got a blue LED lit CD player that is so obnoxiously bright that I built a small cardboard flap that covers it when I'm driving across state night.

Well that sucks...I always liked blue lights. It has a calming effect on me...red makes me a bit "aggressive" lol

Hello I’m talking about the addition of the blue dot lens. They used to use the on older cars. It’s about a nickel in size then you drill out the hole in your back tail light lens red one and insert it in. Just something traditional people used to do with there cars.

You're talking about the old blue dot lenses...

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Many old school hot rodders here have those "blue dots" installed in their tail light lenses--and they get ticketed often,it seems the police hate them,and we have laws against civilians using any "emergency light" on a passenger vehicle,only Amber lenses (and maybe green?) can be used on plow beacons ,and other non-emergency vehicles..
Unless your a cop,fireman,or a licensed tow business you cant blue or red beacon lenses..

Years ago I got pulled over almost instantly when I added a 6" long blue colored "strip" light on my El-Camino's rear bumper to help illuminate the license plate..truck was dark blue,and I thought it looked cool,and it didn't blind anyone ,the cop just said "NO BLUE LIGHTS ALLOWED"...to avoid being ticketed,I cut the wires off it..
But the ghetto dwellers with their neon "tubes" under the car never seem to get hassled..

My older brother rigged up a 2 foot fake Christmas tree on the roof of his old Chevy pickup many years ago,he too was pulled over--the cop said "the tree is OK,but you'll have to remove all the blue and red bulbs"...said only yellow and green ones could stay on it..SCROOGE!.
 

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