I mean custom lower stall converters, stock, or higher stall converters. What do you run? What do you find to work? What would you run if you could afford it? I am going with an auto for a few reasons, the main reason is way closer ratios than the 465 I had planned. My rig is going to mainly be a crawler but sometimes I will play in a field or mud and want to let loose the 383. My thought for mud or open straights is higher stall, something like a 2000, 2200 stall. But for crawling wouldn't a custom lower stall converter be better? Plan is a doubler. Just need to get my 203 and adapters. Those with the lower stall converters, where did you get them made? What did it cost you? How did it effect your crawling?