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Lifting heavy things

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I need a solution. Need to be able to move over rough ground.

No I can't afford a backhoe or a skid steer or a forklift. I've been looking for years.

My current idea centers around a quasi forklift arrangement using my four wheeler and it's 2k lb winch and some sort of wheel arrangement to support the weight.
 
What about a lifting boom with a winch on the 4 wheeler? Similar to what some of the Alaska guys use on their trucks.
 
our local pick-n-pull has a few engine hoists with trailer tire/spindles welded to them to make them more offroad for the dirt/stone driveways down the car rows . has worked for years for them .

my self I just use the lift arm on my snow plow setup on the truck . dana 60 with tires/rims = no problem .
 
I thought about the boom thing but I would need to lockout the suspension.

Other reason I was thinking along the lines I was is cargo control. Things hanging off a gantry or hoist swing around. I want it to be small so I can get into corners etc. Move stuff into my shed.

My yard is not remotely close to even. Working on it but not gonna be so for a while.

But keep the ideas coming any suggestions are useful as they make ya think
 
Maybe a combination of ideas... a motor hoist converted into a small "trailer" to hook to the 4 wheeler?
 
I use my truck's plow hoist too,or the Harbor Freight crane on the rear,but it use is limited --it cant FIT in many places you want to lift or place heavy items...

Here is a link to a thread off a tractor forum I am a member of,these guys have designed and used some altered engine hoists and truck cranes on garden tractors to move heavy things around..
Its a rather long read,but it'll save you a lot of trial and error by not copying others mistakes!..

.Front Mounted Hydraulic Controlled Cherry Picker - MyTractorForum.com - The Friendliest Tractor Forum and Best Place for Tractor Information
 
Maybe a combination of ideas... a motor hoist converted into a small "trailer" to hook to the 4 wheeler?

Yep looking at that too.

Just gotta sit down draw some stuff and figure which will work best for least cost
 
Small trailer or yard cart with an engine hoist mounted on the back.
Pull it with your 4 wheeler.

Small tractor with a boom pole.
 
Small trailer or yard cart with an engine hoist mounted on the back.
Pull it with your 4 wheeler.

Small tractor with a boom pole.
That actually might be the best way I could build it. And I'd have a cart too!
 
I have tried putting my engine crane on a flatbed trailer,so I could haul it on the lawn and over non tarred surfaces--but the idea backfired,the first time I lifted something over 200 lbs,the tractors rear tires came about 2 feet off the ground!--there isn't enough weight back there unless you add a lot,and most transaxles will bust in half with more than 500 lbs on them (including the operator's weight!)..

I put a pair of 4:00x8" trailer tires on the rear of my engine crane --I had a pair of those tow truck dolly wheels I found at a scrapyard,and cut them in half,I found the "pipe" on the spindles fit nicely inside the square tubing on the crane,I left the original casters on ,and can simply slide the dolly thing out if I want to use the crane on asphalt or concrete...the front casters do dig in if you try backing up--I was thinking of getting a pair of those casters with pneumatic tires to put on the front,but then the crane wont fit under a vehicle--it'll be "off road" only unless I made them removeable..since I dont have that many things to move (yet) I figured this project was low on my priority list..

I do like these cranes I saw on Youtube--if your quad has a 3 point hitch it wouldn't be that hard to make one,provided you can weld and cut the steel..

.Crane for tractor - YouTube

NEW CRANE FROM C.TM.LTD FOR COMPACT TRACTORS - YouTube
 
Friend of mine has late 70's Toyota truck with a metal flat bed and swing out crane on the end with electric winch. Thing is awesome can snatch motors etc and it's 4wd. He doesn't drive much on road use's mostly around house but being small and useful is a big bonus.
 
Of course I don't know what equipment you already have, but here are a couple of suggestions.
First, if you have a fairly sound truck, you might get something like one of these.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_material-handling+hoists-lifts-cranes+truck-cranes
I had an older, smaller version in my old truck, and it worked well, though it was awkward. These are much better.

I built a trailer for a friend's wife a few years back. She was running a place that sold concrete fountains and stuff. I used one of those cranes. The ultra-tow number 52514. I did some mods to it.
I replaced the winch with a brake-winch. I Highly recommend doing that on any hand winch device you wind up with.
If you have never used one, they are great. They are always locked. To winch something up, you simply turn the handle normally. To lower something, you turn the handle backwards.
No locks to release, and if you let go of the handle, it stops right there, even if you are lowering something.
Here is what they look like.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&ipp=48&Ntt=brake+winch

The trailer, was a Northern trailer, which I heavily modified.
Pretty sure it was this one.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200612543_200612543

Considering who was going to be using it, I found the stamped sheet metal frame to be a little skimpy. I replaced most of it with thick wall square tubing.

I welded a 1/2 inch thick steel plate on the front and back of the trailer. Drilled and tapped holes in them in the mounting pattern of the crane. So the crane could be mounted front or rear and easily moved.
I attached a drop down foot brace to the lower, non-rotating, part of the crane. Replaced the front trailer hitch with a pin type hitch to go on the golf cart she used.

You can see it in use in the first pic. The eye bolt with the hitch pin through it was temporary just to get it to her. Later I replaced that with a heavy chromed wheel with a bolt.
To use it, you pulled the trailer up next to the weight. Loosened the screw, and the leg dropped to the ground. Tighten the screw, and the leg was locked. The front mounting plate had an eye bolt screwed into it to hook the crane hook to to keep it from flopping around.
After locking the leg, you unhooked the hook, swung the crane around and picked up the load. The front of the trailer was supported by the golf cart, and the back end by the leg.
That way, it did not rock and move on the springs while loading. Then you set the load on the trailer, loosened the screw, raised the leg with the small handle on top, and locked it back in the raised position.
With the trailer fairly short, and hooked to a golf cart, the whole thing was very maneuverable.

If you have a pickup with a solid frame, mounting one of the cranes in the bed with a plate attached to the frame would be the way to go. Otherwise, one of those cranes on a small trailer would work. Either way, add the brake winch. trailer.JPG trailer2.JPG
I mounted mine on the right rear corner of the bed. It was shorter than Northern's, and could collapse down to lay on top of the wheel well under the edge of the top of the bed. Got it from JC Whitney, back in 1979. Not sure they make them anymore.
 
Fordum beat me to it, truck bed crane is what you need..put the base on a plate with receiver tube and you could swap it on anything with a hitch.
 

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