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chicken joe

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ok so im in the market for lock out hubs for my 203 conversion. today i saw a post for the yukons. they look like they would be a better option than the warn premiums, but i dont know much about any of them.

anyone have experience with yukon, or should i just go with warn premiums??

thanks mike
 
I personly don't like the inner guts quality of warn these days .

and if a warn fails it fails open .

Yukon hase some hd stuff and if ther hub happens to fail it fails closed = you got better chance to get home.
 
I've been running the Yukons on my d60 for the majority of this year, I like em, nothing bad to say :dunno:
 
i tried doing a google search eariler to find info, and all i found was on pirate4x4 for the bigger axles.

the cutaway i saw their looked really good.

i dont think im going to do any hardcore off roading, so the warns would probably be fine. but i like peace of mind, and the less i have to worry about, the more enjoyable my experience will be.
 
They are putting the same tech into their hubs as their lockers. Things like the back cut teeth are a huge improvement as far as strength goes.

I would spring for yukons over warns. I really have developed a deep seated hatred for Warn hubs over the last couple years
 
yeah its been a while since i have read anything good about the warns. lately it seems the only time i hear about them is when they fail, and from what i can find that is more often than not.
 
I saw those new yukons. I hope my warns break so I can get some :haha:
 
10/44 yukons are new fresh product.

and the std warn and prem the only real fancy bling bling dial is about it in my opinion .

buy it once and be done if you ask me .

also less stick out over warn hubs from wheel hub flange also .

and fyi I run old school spicer hubs on my 60 axles . ( Yukon copyed / took over / made better ) :popcorn:
 
Oh yah I have a set of stock spicer lockouts if anybody is interested.
 
ok so what i have found of here and other places on the interweb is that the spicers are the way to go. i dont know enough about how this all works yet to know what i want or need.

so far my research i was leaning toward trying to find a set of spicer, then these just came out.

if these yukons are like you say, a better version of the spicer, i think im going to get me a set on the first.
 
one more thing i dont understand. i got a doug nash part time conversion shaft, but i dont understand how it all works. i like to think i know how a t-case works, but it doesnt compute in my head.

why will it not work to just put locking hubs in??
 
also i need a thrush bearing a washers for this install. anyone know a part number or where i might be able to find them

thanks
mike
 
I'm VERY happy with my Yukon hubs. Smooth operation and they're seriously beefy units.
 
Not a 203 expert, but I would think putting locking hubs in a 203 setup would eliminate the wheels being driven at all times. You will still be turning the driveshaft and the axleshafts at all times.

Part time "guts" for the 203 should eliminate the front shaft from turning (except for parasitic drag) and thus the axleshafts.

Not really sure what the benefits are overall, as bad as our MPG is already, I'm not sure the "full time" 4WD (it's really AWD without being in "loc") really causes much additional issues. If anything, the sheer weight and size of the 203 is more of an issue than it being full time lol.
 
once the snow flies here and i can try out the full time or awd, and see how i like it. if i do make to choice to convert it these are the hubs im going to use.
 
Someone else could clarify, I suppose even after installing actual hubs, you could leave them locked in and it would still function the same, you could just put it in true 2WD with them. But at that point, I don't see the point in getting hubs.

I think trying it out is the best bet. I don't see a single downside outside of whatever additional wear you might get from turning the front end components all the time.
 
You can just install a set of lockouts and not use a part time kit in the NP203. The problem is that you have to put it in Lock (High or Low) to get it to move with the lockouts unlocked because the differential in the NP203 will send all of it's power to the front axle due to it having the least resistance.

Even then, when you are in 2 wheel drive, you are still turning the front drive shaft, the ring and pinion, and the axle shafts. It just doesn't drive the front wheels.

I've done it before, and it is better than leaving them full time. I hate the way they drive when in full time.

As far as Yukon lockouts. I have a set on my 1990 K5. They are hard to turn, and annoying to assemble. If you don't plan on hard core wheeling, just stick with a Warn or even a generic lockout. I have never had any trouble with Warn Lockouts (other than when trying to remove them and they had been on so long that they were too corroded to remove).

Oh, and I don't understand the love for Spicers. They suck. Hard to assemble, hard to turn, some have crappy plastic knobs that like to break.

Martin
 
Is there something that can be improved on the Yukons? Removing the plastic dial and making them stick out less seemed to correct all of the Spicers "failings", is it something as easy as reducing the dial diameter a fraction to make it turn easier?

I'm kind of curious, because as you have probably seen, everyone seemed to jump on the "improved Spicer" Yukon design recently. I've not had problems with my Spicers, but if I did, I had considered the Yukon's as a replacement. If they have shortcomings, that's no good. Have you contacted them about it?

Forgot the differential part of 203 differential lol. They must not be that bad a design, it's still working.
 
Oh, the Yukon is definitely better than the Spicer, that just isn't really an accomplishment in my eyes.

The Warns will be just fine for a daily driver. I bought the Yukons for strength on an off road rig that sees lots of abuse.

Martin
 
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