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Looking for D70- front

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I have a buddy looking for a 10 lug open knuckle kingpin Dana 70. They were found under some of the '90's GM conversions and later 4wd Kodiaks. He wants to 4wd his C3500HD for a kick ass plow rig. If you have or know someone who has one drop me a PM.
 
If he finds one send me a pic or post it. I wanna see one. I've seen em in trucks but never up close. I would take one too if he finds extras :D.
 
I posted some pics of this front under such said truck in a thread somewhere. Too lazy to look for it and I have no idea what to punch in the search box.
 
Look in the for sale forum on Pirate, there's a Quigley D70 (high pinion) front there. ($2k iirc)
 
They came in C3500HD's with Quigley or Monroe 4wd conversions. They also came in the TopKick. For his purposes a low pinion is fine, this isn't a rock crawler. I will take a look over on pirate, thanks for the tip.

here is a pic of a Monroe I found cruising google

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The one on pirate is an 8 lug setup, I think he'd slap a Dana 60 in there if going that route and swap a 14FF to the rear. It would be nice to keep the dana 80 in the rear and a front axle capable of the 15k gvw. I believe some conversions were done with a D60 up front to?

The truck is running a PATC 4L80E transmission and a P-pumped Cummins with an aftermarket TCU. He plans on doing a divorced 205 for the conversion, also enables him to keep the driveline e-brake.
 
Don't those D70 fronts have ball joints, not king pins? Aren't the king pins stronger (and the better choice if you want to experience Death Wobble) ;)

Eric M.
 
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What do you guys thing, which is better and why?
Ball joints or king pins?

Eric M.
 
King pins last a lot longer, especially with added weight (big motor, plow) or big tires. I think they are less likely to come apart down the road as well if they do go to H$$$.

I replaced my king pins at 350k miles. Truck had a plow it's whole life and was worked hard. Turned out it wasn't even the kingpins that were bad. I was trying to track down death wobble.

I replaced the ball joints in my K5 about 6 times in 200k. No plow, 33" tires, frequent trips through the drink, fields, etc, but no extraordinary abuse.\

I'll take king pins any day over ball joints.
 
Eric M. said:
What do you guys thing, which is better and why?
Ball joints or king pins?

Eric M.
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I'd like to know too. Dynatrac don't even build their axles with kingpins anymore. Everything is all balljoints now.
 
I don't think there is any evidence to prove one is stronger than the other.

That said


King pins generally last longer if maintained. Even when they wear the springs keep the bearings seated and thus remain "tighter" longer.

Ball joints can separate when they become worn. Once worn they yield tolerances and front end play.

There is a lack of high steer kits available for ball joint front axles.

King pins can be shimmed for alignment purposes, ball joints cannot.

Ball joint axles are generally less expensive to buy.

Some claim that king pins are more costly to replace (not in my experiences) anyhow I believe that is negated by their longer life cycles.

That is about the only differences I can think of. Some ball joint axles are better than others, not sure which, some had ball joints that were under designed. Probably not an issue under a little K5.
 
You can buy offset balljoints to correct angles. this is my 2006 F450. you can see the size of the knuckles and balljoints. the shafts joints are even 1550's. Dodge 4500/5500 use the same axle. the F550 uses that same one too. these are all 10 on 225mm lug pattern. I measured the front rotor diameter once at about 17" IIRC. It'll be way easier to find one of these axles at a wrecker than this specialty conversion axle you're talking about.

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realy on these newer front ends its all stock ball joints.

the upper ball joint is help in a specific caster/camber position with a bushing on each one. there is fixed ones or fully adjustable ones. i prefer the fixed less chance of moving.
 
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