Mileage Blockers

[HankScorpio]

I just saw a video about mileage blockers. Looks to be a device that keeps the odometer from adding miles. Its not rolling back the odometer, its preventing the mileage from ever being recorded. Crooked as hell, but the more I look around the internet the more I am shocked. Anyone run across these things? The entire used car market is ruined for me now. Next time I find a good deal I will still think I am being ripped off!

Bought a new Silverado? Put this thing on, do 100,000 miles and then sell it like its almost new!

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Or get the minimum mileage lease and drive it all you want then give it back.

 

[Fastereddie]

I just saw a video about mileage blockers. Looks to be a device that keeps the odometer from adding miles. Its not rolling back the odometer, its preventing the mileage from ever being recorded. Crooked as hell but the more I look around the internet the more I am shocked. Anyone run across these things? The entire used car market is ruined for me now. Next time I find a good deal I will still think I am being ripped off!

Bought a new Silverado? Put this thing on, do 100,000 miles and then sell it like its almost new!

Mileage blocker for Chevrolet Silverado | SuperKilometerFilter.com

Mileage blocker for Chevrolet Silverado 4th Gen. avoids counting extra mileage while in motion untraceably. Comes with DIY instructions.

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Or get the minimum mileage lease and drive it all you want then give it back.

I like how they say, we don’t sell rollback devices, that would be illegal.

 

[HankScorpio]

This is the video that I first saw. Skip forward to about 3:00 mark to get past the sponsored video crap.

 

[SPLATT]

I see these becoming really popular if tax by mile becomes a thing.

 

[anwat]

As with any computer based hack, you're just going to have to be a little more careful. There's a way to tell if this device has been used or not. Anytime you mess with programming, there's a trail. Biggest giveaway is going to be things like pedal pads, brakes, rotor thickness. Most scammers aren't going to properly maintain their vehicles, so they may shave 10k off without you knowing, but you should be able to see a major difference just in the wear and tear items.
Biggest reason I'm thinking this is traceable is as you said, the lease industry. There's a lot of money being made off mileage excess charges. I don't see the automotive industry being scammed too long by something like this once it's public knowlege that these exist. The vehicles ECM will have a record of the number of starts, even the number of ignition on cycles. There are many other computers on board that will have records of the vehicle systems and the number of times they are used...so while you many not have the mileage, I'm sure you can get the hours, or at least be able to tell it's messed with. But yeah, it's definitely something to be aware of if you're buying a used car. No different than in our day when someone would replace an instrument cluster, or cut the speedo cable for a few years on a car they intended to sell.

Good info though...I hadn't heard of these being out there yet.

 

[Kain]

I thought you were not alowed to tamper with it in any way
in Nevada a trooper told us this.

 

[ktmoutfront]

So th hour meter is going to show idle hours through the roof. My ram shows driving hours and idle hours. Would be difficult to spoof both of those. If I do the math on driving hours, mine averages 45 mph during drive time. If I add the idle hours in, it drops to low 30mph.

 

[6872xtc]

I thought you were not alowed to tamper with it in any way
in Nevada a trooper told us this.

Just because it's illegal, doesn't keep people from doing it or trying to make money from it, or posting about it on the internet.
Same ole thing, just different odometer design.

 

[HankScorpio]

From what I have read, and its all over the place, its not illegal to have or use but its illegal to sell the car with misrepresented mileage. Returning a lease puts you in a grey area. You are a crook, but depending on how the law is written in the state you are in a lawyer will probably get it thrown out. Better call Saul!

I would also think that some of the computers are recording more info but they also don't explain what the module is doing. I would have thought all sorts of things would not work right, shifting, ABS and such. Private sale or even used car lot you can't access the computer info anyway.

Used cars have always been buyer beware. Condition is the most important thing. I just saw an 8.1 silverado on CL with 260,000 miles, hard pass, its worn out. Real clean looking truck, just all used up. If it was 160,000 I might have taken a closer look at it. In that mileage range it would have all sorts of replaced wear items anyway, could be hard to tell the true condition of the drivetrain.

 

[K5Jimmy]

Gimme the good old days. Back in the 70's-80s in Murray, KY people made good money rolling miles off. The town of 12k had over 300 registered dealers that bought and sold rent cars, fleet cars, etc. I made money cleaning and then driving a car to auction in Chicago just to drive some pos back for rinse and repeat. I've seen 2 halves welded together sold as a low mileage one owner.

 

[ZooMad75]

If anybody thinks the odometer value is only held in the cluster is a fool. Engine hour meters also track time as well.

You all know darn well the oem’s are not telling the public where else the info is recorded. Is a dealer smart enough to sniff it out? Depends. But a savvy guy that has appraised cars for a while can get a general feel on if the mileage is legit or questionable. Overall condition, wear on common touch points like gas/brake pedals, driver seat upholstery/carpet.

If one is hiding 10k on a 100k mile unit is one thing but racking up 100k of unrecorded mileage is going to perk some eyeballs.

If you don’t visit a dealer this wouldn’t matter but I know for a fact GM knows every time you bring a vehicle to a dealer. 1-2 year old gm vehicles report the mileage to the dealer when they start an inspection report in GM’S system. All through onstar if you subscribe or not. It will get even more automated as technology moves forward. Gm will be requiring dealers in this year to buy equipment to plug in on the write up stage at a dealer to prescan for fault codes,software updates and recall status. So if you got that little dongle plugged in they may run across the device in the harness.

This is a big deal to them as it impacts residual values on lease returns as well as the used car market in general.

Crooked as hell to me to even see them for sale.

 

[fastazz81]

Dodge/Chrysler is similar to what zoo said mileage recorded at every visit with plug in tool and tablet at write up , warning messages appear for service writer if mileage is less than ladtvvisit and several different modules have hour / mileage recorded in them.

 

[sweetk30]

i know a guy who turned just over 100k miles in under 3 years on a mid size import truck back in the day . . he parked it for a bit to let it blend out and hoped to sell it but life got in the way and the truck sat so long the fuel system went to crap and it was going to cost a ton to fix it and try and find parts . . its still sitting were i last saw it every time i drive by there .

 

[anwat]

Most insurance companies keep track of vehicle mileage, also. And if you think all that doesn't go in a database, you're crazy. I think insurance companies have more info on the average american than the government. I had access to a small portion of a database called ISO for a while. Scary...info goes in and never comes out. It's all private, so no mandatory purging of records. They have tickets from 30 years ago in there. They can't use them to structure your rates, but believe me, they know what kind of driver you are.
In CA, every time you sell a car, you have to sign a odometer statement saying the mileage shown either is or is not the actual mileage. You sign the form under penalty of perjury. Can you get away with it, probably. But if they catch you, you might be in a little hot water...not that it would matter, no one goes to jail here except gun owners.