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Stomis

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So I've read theres been about 4 revisions to this trans. I was wondering what year the revisions were made so I can get the strongest unit to suit my truck.

Also from what I've read the s10 nv3500s were 27 splines out and full size trucks were 32 splines out. Can anyone confirm that?

My last question is that when looking at the nv3500 setup it doesnt seem to have an adapter like sm465s have. Anyone have more info on this?
 
I know the fullsize version is 32 spline for sure. The bell is integral to the main case, so I wouldn't be surprised if the adaptor for the 4WD version was too.

Not sure on the various upgrades though, probably safe to assume newer = better like the 700R-4.

Rene
 
Well, my 2wd S-10 has the nv3500 and I'm pretty sure it's 27 spline. I don't think that really helps though:doah:
 
After looking at listings on car-part, it looks like the S10 and full size trannies are different. As far as S-10's go, it looks like '91-'92 is somehow different from '93-'94 S-10's. Later on I know they went to internal slaves.

FWIW, my '91 seems pretty stout. It had been beat on pretty hard at times and is just recently starting to show it's age... but it's got 204K on it with the original fluid still in it.
 
Why bother with a 3500. If you have bigger than a stock 305. It will just blow up again. There is a very good reason why GM gave up on the NV3500 behind V8s
 
GM ran the NV3500 behind V8s in half tons till at least 05, likely until the body style change in 07.5.

There are a number of different versions of each but they come in the earlier style external slave and 96+ internal slave. The updates made throughout it's lifetime range from minor shift rail changes to complete cluster shaft updates.

I can't remember the exact year splits, but the stongest transmissions are from the 4.8L trucks from 99-07.5

The 96-99 internal slave transmissions are next best, but ther is a single shift rail version and a version with multiple shift rails like the old ones, the single rail model is preferred.

There are two versions of the external slave, one with a single piece cluster shaft and one with a cluster shaft that can be disassembled. I am fairly sure that it is the single piece one that had problems with falling out of gear and premature failure that gives the NV3500 it's bad name.

As you mentioned, all fullsize NV3500s are 32 spline with an integrated 6 bolt round pattern t-case adapter cast in. The mini truck NV3500s are 27 spline but have a 5 bolt round pattern adapter and have their shifter located a good 5" further back then the fullsize rigs (which are a good 5" further back then an SM465 in themselves) with much weaker internals.


NV3500s are not super tough transmissons like the 4500, but they are not the weak garbage that most people tend to spout out on forums. Many fail due to people filling them with gear lube or ATF. They use a 5w30 weight fluid with an additive package for the syncronizers and will fail quickly with other fluids. Many fail due to leaks that go un-noticed or ignored too. They only hold a couple three and a half ounces of fluid and that can dissapear quick through a leak.

I really like the gear spacing they offer, and have enough faith in their strength that I am pulling my early low ratio NV4500 in favour of a 3500 from an 04 that had a 4.8L
 
NV3500s are not super tough transmissons like the 4500, but they are not the weak garbage that most people tend to spout out on forums. Many fail due to people filling them with gear lube or ATF. They use a 5w30 weight fluid with an additive package for the syncronizers and will fail quickly with other fluids. Many fail due to leaks that go un-noticed or ignored too. They only hold a couple three and a half ounces of fluid and that can dissapear quick through a leak.

I really like the gear spacing they offer, and have enough faith in their strength that I am pulling my early low ratio NV4500 in favour of a 3500 from an 04 that had a 4.8L

I recently put one in a '94 c1500, the dealer said it took Syncromesh fluid, so that's what I put in.

I have faith in them too. Mine will be rebuilt and installed behind a mild 350, I truly believe it will hold up fine. And like I said before, my tranny has been worked hard... the 4.3 is no slouch.
 
I'm not worried about the general strength issue. Its gonna be behind a 4.3 with nothing but a punch over and a cam.

So heres the real question...

I have a 27 spline 241. Passenger side drop from a 90 blazer. How do I get that to mate up with a s10 nv3500? I actually want the internal slave seeing as how an external would interfere with the driveshaft. Can the 241 bolt up to the 5 bolt adapter?

From the way it seems if not I have 2 options.

Switch my 241 input to 32 spline.

Or put an s10 nv3500 27 spline output shaft in a fullsize 6 bolt adapter case.

What say ye?
 
It's been quite a while, but I recall it being easy. I remember a bearing retainer that gets unbolted, then a snap ring removed and the input gear comes right out.

Rene
 
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