need t-case suggestions

[BranndonC]

I have a th400 that originally came with a 205 behind it, and a 203 from a th350

i'm tight on money right now, so my whole truck project has been on hold for a couple months, but i recently won $1000 to advanced adaptors. I priced out the transfer case i would want, and its 3000, so thats 2k out of my pocket to even drive down the street.
I could sell the 203/205 to recoup some of the cost, but not nearly enough

or somehow sell the $1000 certificate and use the $ to purchase an ORD doubler kit and shifters (just over a grand i think, maybe 1200-1300)

the gearing of the atlas is 4.3
and the gearing of the doubler is 4.0

the atlas is much lighter

any other pro's and cons i've missed? also i can run just the 205 until i can afford the adaptor for the doubler, but i'd have to buy drive shafts for it then get them changed when i go doubler or atlas

 

[85mudblazin]

I say get the atlas and put a klune behind it

 

[Hossbaby50]

I say sell the cert. if you can and get the cash. I say skip ORD and call WMS for a doubler or the new doubler from the Canadian gentleman on here.

Harley

 

[boz42]

i say if u are going to run only rocks go w/ atlas, but if u are going to run trails & mud u will need tire speed & that means 2:1 to me. over all the gearing options a doubler offers is the best imo, so i vote doubler, the brand of it will be up to u.

 

[fourwheelerjeff]

I say sell the cert. if you can and get the cash. I say skip ORD and call WMS for a doubler or the new doubler from the Canadian gentleman on here.

Harley

and while you are at it, get the 3:1 gears from WMS

 

[Hossbaby50]

If you can afford it the 3:1 203 from WMS in a dual case would be awesome, you are right. If not even just a 4:1 dual tcase setup is pretty damn good.

Harley

 

[sled_dog]

I say sell it and call WMS or dhdescender. I'm going to try and get one of dhd's setups, and hopefully someday a WMS 3:1 setup.

 

[BranndonC]

who is wms? i havent really seen the name before *edit* its wagoneer something, but after searching the 3:1 costs a grand, so i'd stay with what i have before i did that

 

[Hossbaby50]

Wagoner Machine Shop

They offer a dual transfer case setup along with a 3.1:1 lowrange for a 203. They also do alot of hardcore fab and build some sick sick rigs.

http://www.wagonermachine.com/

Harley

 

[BranndonC]

Thanks Harley, it looks like I could get the doubler kit for $750.00
http://www.wagonermachine.com/transfer_case_adapters.htm
and the 3:1 for a grand
http://www.wagonermachine.com/gear_set.htm

so thats 1700 only? thats still saving a bundle over atlas and its lower gearing!
is this right or did i miss something?

 

[Hossbaby50]

You got it right.

 

[BranndonC]

wow, thats crazy, so would i have like quad shifters or what? lol

 

[Hossbaby50]

No the 3:1 in the 203 replaces the standard 2:1 gear. Then you have the 2:1 in the 205 still. So you can do the standard 2 stick shifter or the 3 stick (twin sticked 205) shifter setup.

Harley

 

[BranndonC]

ah, i get it now, i can have either the 203 OR the 205 OR both working, so thats where i get my 3 options from. Thanks man, i'm excited now

 

[sled_dog]

with a triple stick setup you can also lock just the front wheels in 4lo and use cutting brakes to pivot on a rear tire

 

[BranndonC]

lol that'd be a helluva u turn

 

[Hossbaby50]

It is pretty cool. I have ridden in Beck's (former ORD employee's) buggy with a triple stick. He could kick it in front wheel 4lo and do a complete uturn in almost no room at all. He would power brake it so the rear axle acted as the pivot point as the front end dragged itself around. This was on loose dirt though mind you. It was definitly a cool party trick.

Here in AZ that really doesn't work to well since we mostly rockcrawl. The 3 stick is basically useless. Most any situation where a 3 stick setup could benefit you in the 3 stick won't work in. When you try to engage the front only you tend to be bound up and if you are bound up the rear axle won't disengage so you can never get into front wheel only mod unless you can somehow release the bind (which you usually can't) So for the rock crawlers it is basically useless. For people who wheel in looser terrain it can work.

Harley

 

[balzackks84]

I don't know how much a Klune V is but put one of those in front of a SYE'd 241 and you'd be good to go. You should have enough wheelbase to support it. The 241 has a 2.7:1 ratio and you can get the Klune in a 2.7 or a 4.0. Plus the option to go 4:1 in the 241 if you so chose and the ability to clock it flat.

If you get an atlas get one from High Angle with the CV flanges and the driveline brake. Other wise its not worth the money IMO.