big_truxx
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Greg72 said:
yeah... about that..... i cannot find the faq.... that site isnt user friendly to me lol
and if no vin then how can one legally register and drive one of these bodies?
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New 67-69 Camaro bodies
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yeah... about that..... i cannot find the faq.... that site isnt user friendly to me lol
and if no vin then how can one legally register and drive one of these bodies?
big_truxx said:
It's a little unusual navigation over there:
What about the VIN?
A Vehicle or Vessel Identification Number (VIN) is issued by a manufacturer or State Licensing authority. There are three ways for a vehicle to obtain a number.
1) An existing VIN on a vehicle that is titled in your name can be transferred to a repair part (as instructed by your State authority).
2) A number may be issued by your State to ID a custom built vehicle when it passes a safety and number verification inspection.
3) A licensed manufacturer issued a VIN when the vehicle (or vessel) is made and ready for delivery. This can only be issued when a "turn key" (completed) car, truck, boat or aircraft has been manufactured.
big_truxx
1/2 ton status
and i found the faq page lol always thought vin swapping was illegal... 
I guess what they're saying is that as long as the VIN is transferred to a repair part (like an unrusted, replacement panel) it would be allowed.
In this case, the repair panel happens to be rather LARGE and happens to be in the shape of an entire body shell????
I can't say that I really understand the DMVs logic most of the time. Complete Ferraris have been rebuilt around a VIN tag, and are still worth millions of dollars....the value is in the VIN tag itself.
Let's say you find some horribly rusted "original" 1969 Camaro convertible with a good VIN. The car is a total loss, so you systematically replace each panel with new metal, one-by-one.....rear quarters, inners, floors, cowl, firewall, windshield frame, doors. By the "letter of the law" you haven't broken any laws. The only "original" metal is the small piece directly behind the VIN tag itself......is that what now makes the car valueable? I'd argue no...
Conversely,
Lets say you carefully remove the VIN tag (and original metal behind the tag) and carefully graft it into one of these new replacement bodies. What is the net effect??? I'd argue that it's THE EXACT SAME RESULT AS BEFORE!!!!!!
Either way, you've taken a completely rusty Camaro and turned it into a rust-free Camaro by replacing the defective metal panels.... does this make sense to anyone else?
In this case, the repair panel happens to be rather LARGE and happens to be in the shape of an entire body shell????
I can't say that I really understand the DMVs logic most of the time. Complete Ferraris have been rebuilt around a VIN tag, and are still worth millions of dollars....the value is in the VIN tag itself.
Let's say you find some horribly rusted "original" 1969 Camaro convertible with a good VIN. The car is a total loss, so you systematically replace each panel with new metal, one-by-one.....rear quarters, inners, floors, cowl, firewall, windshield frame, doors. By the "letter of the law" you haven't broken any laws. The only "original" metal is the small piece directly behind the VIN tag itself......is that what now makes the car valueable? I'd argue no...
Conversely,
Lets say you carefully remove the VIN tag (and original metal behind the tag) and carefully graft it into one of these new replacement bodies. What is the net effect??? I'd argue that it's THE EXACT SAME RESULT AS BEFORE!!!!!!
Either way, you've taken a completely rusty Camaro and turned it into a rust-free Camaro by replacing the defective metal panels.... does this make sense to anyone else?
big_truxx
1/2 ton status
lol i am thinking like you 
kinda a wtf on the dmv's part... but thats our government for you. after having worked for them for 3 years i say give up trying to figure it all out it just causes more confusion and gives you a headache
kinda a wtf on the dmv's part... but thats our government for you. after having worked for them for 3 years i say give up trying to figure it all out it just causes more confusion and gives you a headache big_truxx
1/2 ton status
in the end i wonder if it is all worth it. last night i was looking out of curiosity in a local publication and found one 1st gen camaro. $12,000 for a 67 ss clone. had a 327 (which should get yanked in favor of a healthy 454 ) but a complete car for thwe price of the body seems beter to me lol
) but a complete car for thwe price of the body seems beter to me lol
big_truxx said:in the end i wonder if it is all worth it. last night i was looking out of curiosity in a local publication and found one 1st gen camaro. $12,000 for a 67 ss clone. had a 327 (which should get yanked in favor of a healthy 454
To get a fine example of a cloned car it should cost way more than that . If that clone was factory correct it would not have a 327 in it and that would make a buyer wonder about body work and the craftmanship of the rebuild of the car.
In my opinion someone wanting a clean ( as in not repaired , or replacement panels welded in on a unibody car ) first gen Camaro , and was willing to pay for a clean example should look into the DII tubs. It just opens up the options of saving a rusted out jewel or lets someone do what they wish with out the guilt of killing a rare car.
I don't mean to sound like I am being negative about your reply but I just think that a piece such as this should be compared to the top of the line rebuild ( clone ) instead of some car that is priced much lower than the market would get for a quality rebuild.
Any way folks look at it I think it is great that we have the option to get one of these tubs if desired.
Tom
