New Chevy Trucks Suck Ass!

[sweetk30]

dont forget the big tsb. rust build up under the sensor pushes it away and makes it not work correctly. the fix. remove sensor. fill hole with paper towl chunk. clean off rust. then remove any from sensor. reinstall and 98% time fixed. but this is mostly for 5mph or less activation for no reason at all problems.

 

[Ancient4X4]

And people wonder why I keep driving my 77'. I had to replace the fuel filter and hose a couple years ago, that was about ten dollars worth of parts.

 

[hammermachine]

ABS continues

So after going to the dealer Saturday morning, ( of course the warning light decided not to light the entire morning) the problem was absent. The mechanic hooked up the dio computer and nothing was recorded in the system of the fault. NOTHING. After describing the problem the mechanic wanted me to come back if the problem reacurred. Now mind you the problem had been non stop for the last 10 days. But that morning... NOTHING. I took my truck out and drove two miles when the light came back on, it went on and off twice before it stayed on. I went back to the dealer and the mechanic and he hooked it up again. NOTHING. Apprently the EBCM module (1 of 8) (Corvettes had 19) is not talking to my truck's computer, and the fault is not being recorded. NICE. Short story, another missed half day and a wait until the special order module comes in. Don't get me wrong, I'll be very happy if it works after they install and calibrate it. But I'm really not feeling all warm and fuzzy with all this heavy dependance on manufactureres. More motivation to get my K5 running.

 

[roadnotca]

At least its not FURD, blowing sparkplugs or burning to the ground.

 

[j20m715]

I had a 97 GMC Yukon 2 dr 4x4,,,biggest P.O.S on the planet...
I had such high hopes that this would be a vehicle I would keep as long as my 79 K5.

42,000 Dollars,,drove it off the showroom floor. It was my DD.

Damn, $42000, How many did you buy????

 

[hammermachine]

Amen

At least its not FURD, blowing sparkplugs or burning to the ground.

True, I had a Bronco once... it was great the first month, month in a half. Then something broke or "gave " out every week after that.

 

[5280k5]

So after going to the dealer Saturday morning, ( of course the warning light decided not to light the entire morning) the problem was absent. The mechanic hooked up the dio computer and nothing was recorded in the system of the fault. NOTHING. After describing the problem the mechanic wanted me to come back if the problem reacurred. Now mind you the problem had been non stop for the last 10 days. But that morning... NOTHING. I took my truck out and drove two miles when the light came back on, it went on and off twice before it stayed on. I went back to the dealer and the mechanic and he hooked it up again. NOTHING. Apprently the EBCM module (1 of 8) (Corvettes had 19) is not talking to my truck's computer, and the fault is not being recorded. NICE. Short story, another missed half day and a wait until the special order module comes in. Don't get me wrong, I'll be very happy if it works after they install and calibrate it. But I'm really not feeling all warm and fuzzy with all this heavy dependance on manufactureres. More motivation to get my K5 running.

Unfortunately a lot of the time ABS codes do not store as a "history"code if the problem goes away. Emissions failures and driveability codes usually will store as history codes but that's related to emissions stuff and is required by federalo standards. ABS can be one the hardest system to diagnose because of this reason along with the fact that you're dealing with so many moving parts that get exposed to the elements. Have seen quite a few EBCM controllers need replaced if that makes you feel any better. Keep in mind that if the technician can't see the failure happening it makes it very hard to diagnose and you witnessed the intermittent nature of the problem.
FYI, the new body style Tahoe is up to 25 on board controllers and uses a data stream faster than what the current Tech 2 scan tool is capable off

 

[hammermachine]

Wow

Unfortunately a lot of the time ABS codes do not store as a "history"code if the problem goes away. Emissions failures and driveability codes usually will store as history codes but that's related to emissions stuff and is required by federalo standards. ABS can be one the hardest system to diagnose because of this reason along with the fact that you're dealing with so many moving parts that get exposed to the elements. Have seen quite a few EBCM controllers need replaced if that makes you feel any better. Keep in mind that if the technician can't see the failure happening it makes it very hard to diagnose and you witnessed the intermittent nature of the problem.
FYI, the new body style Tahoe is up to 25 on board controllers and uses a data stream faster than what the current Tech 2 scan tool is capable off

I decided two yaers ago this was going to be the last "New Car" I will purchase. Things are just too complicated, and require way too much $$$$$

 

[vortec]

i'd say i've had decent luck with my '94 c1500. the po had no real issues, and i haven't had many really unusual things:

1 alternator @ 98K miles
1 cracked radiator @ 110
1 starter @ 115
1 pitman arm @ 123

here's the big one:

1 transmission @ 119K - but, the po had tried to build a "performance" tranny and used cheap parts with big claims. that's why it failed. plus, i run it pretty hard. i had it rebuilt. most of the guts are for vettes, now.

of course, i'm not counting spark plugs, oil/air/fuel filters, etc.

i really can't complain. it's been at least as dependable as most vehicles i've seen, and much better than most. and since i do nearly all of my own work, it cost isn't bad.

 

[Chevy305]

My mom's boy friend is a contractor and he has a 2000 Chevy 2500 extended cab long bed with ladder racks and tool boxes.

It has over 225K miles on it now. The only major things to go wrong with it was the bed cracking because of the constant weight of the tools, AC compressor clutch grenading at about 215K, and the electric shift transfercase getting stuck in neutral at about 220k.

Besides basic and preventative maintainance thats it. He tows all the time with it and often drives over an hour everyday to each job site.

The thing runs and drives perfectly fine. But the engine is getting a little tired and he would like one of the new Chevy trucks

 

[roadnotca]

Uh, every one of here is in the process of totally re-engineering a 20-30 year old GM product.
When the new ones get that old, we'll have some really awesome upgrades.
1000 HP from gas with 30 mpg. Maybe I try to keep mine for 20 years.

 

[Elevator Man]

O4 silverado Z71 speedo broke, push button 4x4 works half the time, brakes sucked since new, doors leak water and air, winshield leaks water (not one crack in it!) This all before 75K miles!!! I hate my DD Forgot about both wheel bearing going out a week apart at 62K miles

 

[5280k5]

O4 silverado Z71 speedo broke, push button 4x4 works half the time, brakes sucked since new, doors leak water and air, winshield leaks water (not one crack in it!) This all before 75K miles!!! I hate my DD Forgot about both wheel bearing going out a week apart at 62K miles

Yeah, that sucks but is the exact reason I always recommend purchasing a factory backed extended warranty
Just ask the person who started this thread.

 

[hammermachine]

And on, and on...

So Saturday I took the truck to the dealer and after alot of figuring and scientific wild ass guesses, it was determined that the EBCM module was bad. It was not in stock so I had to take off from work (1/2 day) and go back this morning. Special order item.... Anyway they did a fast job, we took it for a test drive and wow... no ABS light! GREAT. Even better, I still had warrenty coverage. I left and headed off to work... from there a fifty mile hop. I got within a 1/4 of a mile from my job and the frigggin light comes back on....ABS! WTF!!!!! Now I'm going to have to take a vacation day to take it back down there. WTF!

 

[gmc4cw]

why do you keep taking off work? you should be able to drop it off, have them drive you to work or give you a loaner and pick it up when you are done working. You do not need to be there for them to fix it. They should be driving it to make sure it is fixed, not just replacing parts and handing you the keys. My shop opens at 7am and closes at 8pm.

Is this were my truck I would have been driving a loaner since saturday. I would have dropped it off saturday and said the ABS is not working, its not safe to drive, gimme a car. your warranty will pay for it.

 

[hammermachine]

why do you keep taking off work? you should be able to drop it off, have them drive you to work or give you a loaner and pick it up when you are done working. You do not need to be there for them to fix it. They should be driving it to make sure it is fixed, not just replacing parts and handing you the keys. My shop opens at 7am and closes at 8pm.

Is this were my truck I would have been driving a loaner since saturday. I would have dropped it off saturday and said the ABS is not working, its not safe to drive, gimme a car. your warranty will pay for it.

That's a good idea. I need the truck for Saturday (working on K5). It's funny they haven't offered a loaner. They only ask me if I'm going to wait or not. On a rating of 1 to 10 how dangerous is this situation?

 

[CDA 455]

So Saturday I took the truck to the dealer and after alot of figuring and scientific wild ass guesses, it was determined that the EBCM module was bad. It was not in stock so I had to take off from work (1/2 day) and go back this morning. Special order item.... Anyway they did a fast job, we took it for a test drive and wow... no ABS light! GREAT. Even better, I still had warrenty coverage. I left and headed off to work... from there a fifty mile hop. I got within a 1/4 of a mile from my job and the frigggin light comes back on....ABS! WTF!!!!! Now I'm going to have to take a vacation day to take it back down there. WTF!

When my wife and I were looking for a new vehicle in May, we looked long and hard at the '07 Tahoe (beautiful rig).

When it came down to brass taxes, we ended up buying an '07 Toyota Sequoia. Why? Because of our successful experience with past Toyota's.

My wife's '92 Camry (240,000 miles), my '89 4X4 truck (210,000 miles), '93 4X4 4Runner (89,000 miles), '95 Supra Twin Turbo (47,000 miles).

My first vehicle, ever, was an '85 Chevy IROC Camaro 'Limited Edition'. The thing was a major POS . In '89, after the fuel injectors took a dump, I traded the POS in for a brand new '89 Toyota truck (my first Toyota). I remember praying, while the dealership was taking it for a test drive, that the POS wouldn't break down !!


Ah, the memories !!

I remember being in Anza Borrego in '92. On that day we went oot there, It was the hottest spot in the national: 117* !!

While on our trek, I remember having the A/C on full-blast (partially to brag to myself how the Toyota won't overheat while we were oot here), creeping along at aboot 2 to 5 MPH, and singing Christmas songs with my buddy's brother and little girl (my passengers)!!

 

[vortec]

Maybe I try to keep mine for 20 years

might as well. my pickup is 14 years old, and i have no intention of replacing it soon. might get c4 vette for fun, though.

the only thing i can think of that would make me (and probably most of you) give up on a vehicle is major frame damage, or repair cost well beyond the cost of the vehicle. when my k5 engine went at 266k miles, most people said "time for something else". uh, how about engine swap? it saved me money, i kept a vehicle i like, and engine installation is just plain fun . but, i got mixed reviews on the color i painted the engine. cast iron. what do they know?

 

[5280k5]

That's a good idea. I need the truck for Saturday (working on K5). It's funny they haven't offered a loaner. They only ask me if I'm going to wait or not. On a rating of 1 to 10 how dangerous is this situation?

Most GMPP warranty plans cover rental car after the first day. Since this has been intermittent and multiple service visits that's your criteria for demanding a rental. ABS is much like and air bag system in the sense that if the system recognizes any faults it will shut it down and illuminate a warning light. The manufacturer would rather the system be inoperable than operate in a manner that it was not engineered for or can't accurately monitor due to a faulty component. It is not necessarily unsafe because the hydraulic brake system will still work as designed minus the ABS. On the other hand it is nice to know how your vehicle is going to react in a panic stop.
Most dealers don't necessarily go out of their way to offer a loaner due to the fact that it costs a lot money added to a warranty claim and excessive high claims tend to put you in a hot spot with the manufacturer.

 

[gmc4cw]

You will never get what you do not ask for. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

When my ABS was acting up it was dangerous to drive. the ABS light would come on and then I couldn't stop below 5-10 mph. I would hit the brakes and as I was coming to a stop the ABS would kick in and there wouldn't be any brakes. it thought the one wheel was locked up.

If they need your truck for more then 2 hours you are entitled to a rental. you do not need to wait that 2 hours, the job just needs to dictate that much time or more.