Brackets are about ready to tack weld everything together. I changed the way I am going to put the angle on, I made it go across the top of the bracket(intead of welding it inside the two brackets, having to depend on the welds only for strength), hopefully it supports more weight that way /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I'm going to cut the top plate tomorrow and gusset the outside brackets, all the brackets will weld to the front tube for the bumper, then I will run a 1x3" rectangle tube from inside bracket to inside bracket. The lower tube and top plate will bolt to the frame, then inside mounting plate has three bolts and then to two bolts that go into the body mount cup! I think that should be enough hardware up front. Update 2 not 100% sure but I bought plunty of steel to play with... Got a 12' piece of 6" wide 1/4" steel for $18! IN this picture the drawing of the eye you can see on the cardboard is the location of the hanger in the stock location. I have some ideas for bracing, just didn't have time to get things cut today. Man it was hot! Rear echobit flip/56's and 14bolt #3 (3.73 open) Here's the D44 4.10, 14bolt 5.13 welded, 14bolt 4.56 need put together!