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np203 full time or part time?

wazzabie

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Is it better to retain full time np203 with always 4 wheel drive or mod to part time np203?

According to this video. Going to part time makes it worse.

1. Full time less tire wear
2. Full time better control and handling
3. Min fuel saving with part time

 
I have a np 205 - th350 in the k5. It originally had a np203-th350. I'm thinking about going back to the np203-th350 so that I can have full time 4x4.
 
I have a np 205 - th350 in the k5. It originally had a np203-th350. I'm thinking about going back to the np203-th350 so that I can have full time 4x4.
It depends what you need.
Each has its benefits.
All wheel drive is better for a lot of things but it has it's problems too and that's why some change it to part time.
I would have an awd on pavement, for off road I probably would stick with the part time
 
I would like to use all wheel drive when there is mixed conditions of snow, ice and paved road.
 
Full time works very well when stock
When lifted 4" or more it's tough to get it to work well without addressing angles etc.

More sensitive when going over 50mph+
 
Is it better to retain full time np203 with always 4 wheel drive or mod to part time np203?

According to this video. Going to part time makes it worse.

1. Full time less tire wear
2. Full time better control and handling
3. Min fuel saving with part time

He probably has CVs on the front not u-joints.
 
If you want full time can’t you just keep your hubs locked, if your 203 is converted to part-time? That way you can have the part-time conversion and still use it as full-time if you choose.
 
If you want full time can’t you just keep your hubs locked, if your 203 is converted to part-time? That way you can have the part-time conversion and still use it as full-time if you choose.

a converted np203 to part time can no longer run 4x4 on pavement
 
If you want full time can’t you just keep your hubs locked, if your 203 is converted to part-time? That way you can have the part-time conversion and still use it as full-time if you choose.
Nope.
If he loses the differential in the tcase it's not an all wheel drive anymore
 
Only 4wd in low speed settings? Like under what MPH is 4wd ok to use?
Anytime you drive in 4x4 on a hi traction surface and you turn the wheel there's binding.
There's no speed that is ok, something will give, usually it's the tires
 
Anytime you drive in 4x4 on a hi traction surface and you turn the wheel there's binding.
There's no speed that is ok, something will give, usually it's the tires

Right, that I know.

I guess what I’m driving at, in what situations are you supposed to lock your hubs with a part-time 203?
 
All my trucks have always been part time, and I have been known to go in interesting places. When chasing dogs, I often go from knee deep mud, to dry pavement, and then dive off into the mud or even a small creek.
My normal procedure, is to turn my hubs when I first start off the pavement, and leave them turned.
Then, I just shift into and out of 4wd as needed. At whatever speed I happen to be traveling at. I usually am in 2wd to start, and often stay in it for a while. When I start feeling bad wheel slip, I back off the gas, drop the 205 into 4wd and get back on the gas.
You have to make sure the rear wheels are not spinning faster than the front to prevent grinding.
When I hit dry packed dirt, or pavement, I back off the gas for a second, kick the auto tranny into neutral and shift out of 4wd. Back into drive, give the tranny just a second to shift and decide which gear it should be in, and then back on the gas.
I once hit the pavement in my old truck, and forgot to shift. I got about 150 feet, and the truck started bogging down. I took my foot off the gas, and it more or less slammed to a stop. The shift lever on the transfer case was leaning at an angle, I had some serious drivetrain bind.
I shifted into reverse, then when it started rolling, I hit neutral and got out of 4wd.

Leaving the hubs turned, especially when going in and out of mud and water, does cause more wear on the spindle bearings, but being able to shift on the fly when bad stuff hits is worth it.
They make a grease tube gadget for the Dana 44, and I think it will fit others. You remove the hubs, sometimes the outside lock nut, but all of my trucks worked without it.
Then you screw this tube onto the spindle where the axle nuts are, and the axle goes up inside the closed tube. Then you put a grease gun on the fitting on the end of the tube and start pumping.
This forces grease into the spindle around the axle. Takes a lot of grease, but eventually it starts coming out the back end of the spindle.
This greases the spindle bearings without removing them, and fills the spindle with grease. I have noticed when doing a lot of mud and deep water crossings, the hubs and spindle bearing seem to stay dry. That grease in the spindle blocks the water.
I have found, that when I have water and fine mud intrusion into the hubs and wheel bearings, it usually comes in through the spindle bearing seal and runs down the axle stub. If the spindle is full of grease, the water does not get to the hubs, and does not get around them inside to the wheel bearings.
 
Orrr you can just go dual tcase and combine the two. Shazam
 
I just never cared for the 203 being chain driven vs the 205 being gear driven.
 
I have a np 205 - th350 in the k5. It originally had a np203-th350. I'm thinking about going back to the np203-th350 so that I can have full time 4x4.
My opinion that is a bad idea. 203 is chain driven to the front. That chain stretches over time. I haven't heard too many stories of it breaking, but it is considered a weak link.
 
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