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Np246 NIGHTMARE

mark84k5

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Hope this helps some people. My np246 had pump rub and sprung a leak. This is on a 2004 z71 suburban . I didn’t think it was to bad as I can get a new case at the pick and pull yard for $75+ $25 core. Went and got a new one last weekend and took it apart and put a case saver in it. I didn’t fully rebuild it as this is my beater and everything inside looked fresh. Today I pulled mine out and that is where a fatal error was found. There are different encoder motor shafts on different years/models. Mine has a splined shaft and the motor has a 7pin connector. The one from the junk yard looked like a double d steering shaft and had a 4pin connector. I immediately jumped in the interweb and looked for some kind of 7to 4 pin adapter which I wasn’t able to find and it seems as others have had this issue. So it dawned on me to see if I could just switch the motor shafts out for one another, which you can. Be careful as there are needle bearings around the shaft. After that I put it all back together and stumbled onto the next issue. The main input output shaft that has the clutches wasn’t sitting all the way down causing the rear case half to sit high so I took it all apart again and realized the next issue. Which ever motor shaft you use you have to use the same arm that rides on that shaft because the bearing part is set differently on the are(see picture).
IMG_7050.jpegThis next picture is the shaft I have been talking about. It corresponds with the arm on the top of the above picture.
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I have yet to put the case in my truck and road test it so it may not work but it does shift through everything properly on the bench.i would also add I probably took apart and put back together 10times trying to figure this all out, so you don’t have to. I will post again when road tested. Hope this helps someone else and I hope I wrote this in an easily understandable way.
 
Hope this helps some people. My np246 had pump rub and sprung a leak. This is on a 2004 z71 suburban . I didn’t think it was to bad as I can get a new case at the pick and pull yard for $75+ $25 core. Went and got a new one last weekend and took it apart and put a case saver in it. I didn’t fully rebuild it as this is my beater and everything inside looked fresh. Today I pulled mine out and that is where a fatal error was found. There are different encoder motor shafts on different years/models. Mine has a splined shaft and the motor has a 7pin connector. The one from the junk yard looked like a double d steering shaft and had a 4pin connector. I immediately jumped in the interweb and looked for some kind of 7to 4 pin adapter which I wasn’t able to find and it seems as others have had this issue. So it dawned on me to see if I could just switch the motor shafts out for one another, which you can. Be careful as there are needle bearings around the shaft. After that I put it all back together and stumbled onto the next issue. The main input output shaft that has the clutches wasn’t sitting all the way down causing the rear case half to sit high so I took it all apart again and realized the next issue. Which ever motor shaft you use you have to use the same arm that rides on that shaft because the bearing part is set differently on the are(see picture).
View attachment 516276This next picture is the shaft I have been talking about. It corresponds with the arm on the top of the above picture.
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I have yet to put the case in my truck and road test it so it may not work but it does shift through everything properly on the bench.i would also add I probably took apart and put back together 10times trying to figure this all out, so you don’t have to. I will post again when road tested. Hope this helps someone else and I hope I wrote this in an easily understandable way.
It's nice to see people still want to be helpful here.
Most people these days will say: it cost me time and money to figure it out so I will not tell anyone the solution and offer to fix it for money
 
It's nice to see people still want to be helpful here.
Most people these days will say: it cost me time and money to figure it out so I will not tell anyone the solution and offer to fix it for money
I thought that’s what forums are all about, helping others free of charge. I think it would be counterproductive for all of us to make the same mistakes!
 
Best thing I ever did to my 246 was swap it for a 241....
That is what is going in my 1998 suburban, I think I have a 243 right now and I am having problems with the electric shift so I am putting a manual shift 241 instead and putting the cable shifter for the front axle instead of the defective electric element
 
Guess I was lucky and only thing that was bad on my 246 was either the computer or motor. Either real slow engagement or going bad and defaulting to neutral. I tried to wire it up, but didn't work, so said screw it n SAS'd it. Been great ever since lol.
 
I wanted to add that originally my case sprung a leak somewhere up north and about 100miles from home leaked all the fluid out. I thought I had a wheel bearing going out. When I figured out it was the tcase making that noise I had driven over 100miles on an about empty case. So when I did take it apart there where a lot of shavings and clutch material in it. That’s why I had to get a whole nother case with good internals. Looking at what you guys are saying I probably should have gotten a 241 and made it manual.
 
Test drove it and it worked. All drive modes(2hi,4hi/lo,auto4) all work. So just to recap if you get a np246 with the wrong encoder motor shaft just switch the shafts and use the corresponding clutch arm and you don’t have to rewire anything or go find another case. If something goes bad in the future I’ll add it to this thread!
 

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